December 26, 2009

December 26 2009,

I couldn't sleep last night, and as is my custom I started praying. I
usually follow the outline of the prayer where Jesus taught His
disciples to pray. Often I never finish. Last night I got caught up in
the magnificence of God. He put the vast universe together, and vast in
a major understatement. He knit each and everyone of us together. Every
cell He thought of while putting us together. Again a major
understatement to think of the attention He pays to the smallest detail.
With it being Christmas time I was reminded that He came to earth as a
human to got through our experiences in this world - His world.

I got caught up in the recent thought I had that we often are afraid to
submit to God and do things His way because we are scared of what that
might mean. Of course we are afraid "I" don't know what God wants us to
do and "I" fear it. This "I" is the part of us that the devil appealed
to in Eden to get Adam and Eve to fall. This "I" is the part of us that
sees our life going a certain way- namely our way and not His. So fear
is certainly expected.

In thinking about who He is, and what He knows it became apparent to me
that not submitting to His ways is like trying to drive a twisty
mountain road blindfolded. A wreck is almost a certainty, and when we do
things our way we will assuredly wreck.

God will allow us to wreck as well. If we really want to be god in our
lives He won't prevent us. It will mean heartache and disappointment
because we are not God. If we through our choices decide we want to be
miserable, He will let us.

He does not desire that for us though. He is about justice and
righteousness. He is about fairness. That is His heart, and as God He
makes things fair and just in His way and not in the confines of our
human existence. We need to submit our "I" to His will, and obey.

Bad TV and Halloween

The last couple of nights some of the TV programs became so bad I had to turn it off. Oh I love the days when we play the radio- set to the Christian station in Black Mountain (WMIT).

Ghost whisperer talking to dead people- clearly not a thing that God condones. The Bible gives an example of it happening, but it isn't condoned. To add to that we "learned" that when people die the good part and the bad part are "split up". How ludicrous, it sounds like and excuse to behave badly, and it was very disheartening to see that people watch this and seeds of bad thinking get planted.

On Law and Order we learned that is quite OK for the government to kill the really bad people, and be above the law.

I tried to watch a special on global warming, and they talked about how we're destroying the earth. In Jeremiah it says the earth groans at the sins of the people- our selfishness is consuming resources which may or may not be causing global warming. It is certainly making us slaves to our debtors. If we really had such a wonderful run of economic prosperity why are there huge slums and lots of poor? A slum in Africa was shown, along with sound bytes of George Bush calling us to return to space. Nobody is interested in feeding the poor (the 1/5 of the world that live on less than $1 per day), we're too self focused. Its also not good to point fingers of blame- claiming it is someone else's fault. Its a collective problem, and it points to the very principles Jesus taught, and are listed in the Bible.

The place I work did something for Halloween. They planned to give away candy to children. Some of the workers excelled at dressing up as witches, vampires, the grim reaper, etc. All the things that nightmares for small children are made of.

Come quickly Lord Jesus, teach in your gentle way, and open eyes, change hearts, draw people to Yourself. Selfishness and self-centeredness abound.

Romans 13 thoughts

I've ended for now my focused study for the most part. Not knowing where to read today I went back to my incomplete "New Testament Thoughts" and found the chapter I had left off at. It was Romans 13. Here are my thoughts.

Rom 13
Be subject to governments, they are appointed by God. At the very least they are allowed by Him. When I read this passage, I don't think of the government in the US although I see what I believe are dangerous trends. I think of the former government in Afghanistan (the Taliban) that are really terrorists. This scripture says an Afghan formerly needed to be subject to them. This does not say all governments obey God, but rather they have authority because He allows it. One day He will be the government, and we should all look toward that time. In the OT Ahab had a righteous subject who hid people in caves that Ahab was trying to kill (1 Kings 18). An example of doing what God asks of us in this passage even if the government doesn't recognize God.

Obadiah didn't resist authority but he rather did good. Jezebel was killing prophets of the Lord, but probably for whatever reason (maybe God inspired) did not ask Obadiah to help, or perform this. He followed a higher calling and hid them instead, and God protected him. In Romans 13 we are told that if we do good we will not have to fear authorities, and will in fact receive praise from them. Under oppressive regimes like the Taliban this seemingly is impossible. God however has a long history of protecting those that serve Him. Our doing good is a witness for Him, and He may use it to bring about change.

As a consequence of subjection we must pay taxes. Certainly in our time in the US our taxes go to support things that aren't of God, and this seemingly is about to get worse. Its not very efficient for instance to be opposed to abortion and then have the government come along and use tax money to provide abortion on demand- which seems to be where we are heading. However, not paying taxes is not an option. It makes us criminals, not witnesses for Christ. As witnesses for Christ maybe enough people will see the opposing sides and bring about change.

Being in subjection to the Government is a part of loving people. It is interesting that most people who don't recognize and follow the things of God seem to do so because the "rules" seem to be a list of "don'ts". If a person reflected as to God's reasons behind these prohibitions it doesn't take very long to see how what we think may be fun, in fact causes pain for others. If we love others do we cause them pain? We may hurt their pride, but our actions in fact protect and show love.

We are then admonished to love our neighbors. The Lord's return is closer than it was. In the message version there is a warning not to get so caught up in the things of the world that we forget God. I see people frenetically struggling and experiencing anxiety daily and yet without a God or Kingdom focus. We need to show the world God's love, it is the only thing that will bring about the true change that most of us desire. We need to take the focus off our personal wants and desires and place our desires along with those of God. Seeking instead what He wants.

Place God first always, personally do what He would want you to, and remember that being in subjection to the government that He has placed over you is a part of following Him. The inconsistencies you might see (that may be valid) are being pointed out by your enemy who is trying to drive a wedge between you and God. Between your pride and your enemy's prompting you may decide you know the best answer- better than God, and at that point you are following a lie.

October recent thoughts

Two things have been on my mind lately. One is that it has become important to me to try and compliment particularly women (if I do compliment them) on something other than looks. Its so apparent the time and energy that is spent by women trying to be beautiful, when the focus should be on their character. Prov 31:30. I usually don't compliment men on their looks, but rather what they know or can do. So in a way its a double standard anyway. The Lord hates double standards.

The other thing came up today, someone has stated that our failing education system is responsible for our economic woes. I tend to agree, and was in the middle of grading math tests. Students seem more and more to expect a passing grade for just coming to class. They try and get by with minimal effort on their part. According to the article this has translated into workers who can't think, can't continuously improve, etc. In other words it has translated into America losing its competitive edge.

The article further states that workers who do implement improvements, try new ways of doing things, and continue their education are generally kept. While workers who wait to be told what to do, and have their assignments given to them are the first ones laid off. Their job prospects will remain low if they wait for someone to offer them a job.

One unemployed person I know told me the other day he was offered a job for less money than he had previously been making. Since he sensed his "need" for more money, he turned the job down. Taking the job may have prevented his continuing his education, in which case I can see that situation both ways.

In seeing this attitude and knowing how we generally are as instructors I would say every possible effort is made to help students succeed, and it becomes frustrating when they don't take advantage. They want second and third chances, they don't believe they will fail until its too late, then they are quick to blame something other than their lack of effort.

Has "No child left behind" fueled this? Some of our greatest minds have experienced failure, and yet we don't allow our children the benefit of that teaching method. It is tragic for students to fail, and we should teach and help to the best of our abilities, but failure "chasing" them may help them run toward "success".

We can always blame our mistakes and failures on not having the wisdom of age, I certainly do. Now we have people who seemingly have never failed, or made a mistake. They have done what was "expected" and yet they are nearly as helpless as when they were born.

Public school funding is tied to the "success rate" of students. This puts the schools in the awkward position of trying to show the students are successful. Usually done through test scores which can easily be improved by teaching the "tests", rather than thinking skills. It becomes memorization. This test also gets emphasized to the point that students have quickly learned to "cut back" on their performance in the not so critical areas. This means both sides meet at the test, an all or nothing. "Competencies" - which I'm told are different from tests- not sure I believe it are the newest fad. When they are implemented, then passing the competencies used to determine the success of students will then become the focus of teaching. Something will come along after that...

The fix? Each individual teacher has present the material to the best of their ability (which means continuous improvement) and then to grade fairly. God is about us doing what we can to be fair on a case by case basis. No biases. This will probably mean good teachers with not so high success rates will probably lose their jobs for "poor performance"- I've seen it happen (more than once).

That pressure can be removed by not tying school funding to performance. It should be a matter of number of kids means so many dollars. No extras, no cutbacks based on performance. Fairness, justice, and people striving to continually improve what they do can fix it. Its God's way.

Just when you think you're getting it...

Its been an interesting weekend. I thought I was doing well with my relationship to God and then He showed me some things that make me feel so small, and that I have a ways to go.

I think I have caught His vision of how the world should be. The one where we help each other out, take care of our brothers first, and not worry about ourselves. Focus on lives that magnify Him and stress Him. In looking at that world as compared to where we are, its really very depressing. Its also frustrating, and should be a signal to drive us to our knees.

God made the world, and He makes new things (life) for us everyday. I was reminded this morning. So there is hope. I need to set aside a prayer closet- literally. I was trying to get away to the outdoors to pray, but it seldom works out. I'll think of trail conditions or some work problem and will not pray and focus like I should. I intend to make it more of a priority. The prayer book I mentioned in my last post makes a lot of good points.

Jesus went to a secluded place often, and He knew what the Father was doing. We're so quick to claim we're too busy for that kind of relationship, and yet most of feel at some level that there is something missing in our lives. Might I suggest God? Might I suggest He is awaiting you to truly put Him first and ask His guidance on your cares?

Today's thoughts

After recently reading books about end times that were concerning, I
finally found a truly great book.

"The Priority of Kingdom Focused prayer" by Rick Astle. He uses
scripture to help us see our selfishness as it relates to our prayer
life. We often don't pray for anything but our concerns in this life
and those of our loved ones.

What if we prayed for what God wants? He wants a relationship with all
people. He wants them to follow His ideas on how to live. I see the
brilliance of God here, if we followed this advice and everyone became
focused on the things of God and not the things of self what would
happen? I would predict all the issues we pray for would go away.

Most of our problems can be traced back to selfishness of people. One
good question may be how is God glorified in this or that action?

So the book provides a guide so we can form the habits of seeing this
world differently and praying for the things God wants. I read it
through once- just to see how it ended (it didn't disappoint). I intend
to read it again and apply.

End time thoughts

I have recently read two books that discuss the rapture from the standpoint that it won't happen. I'm not sure what the term is, but the last book called rapture proponents dispensationalists.

Oh well, I have read some of the dispensationalist books as well, and there is clearly two sides that emphasize different points, and since they are guessing about the future....

The bottom line - neither know for sure. God wants all people to come into relationship with Him- both sides agree on that. If that happens then God may change His mind about what He inspired to be written. If you contrast that with the old testament stories of the destruction of Jerusalem which happened exactly as described (prophesied) because people didn't repent and turn to Him.

So what will it be? A sudden turning and God relenting on His inspired word - substituting mercy for judgment, or will it be a stubbornness and unrepentant people that He will pour judgment out on them in an effort to get them to realize their position before Him and change their ways?

I don't know.

I would like to say something about the inspiration of God's word. Often people want to go back to the times and the thinking of the human authors that actually penned the text. A flashing red light goes off in my mind when I read something to that effect. If those people were inspired by God, they wrote what He gave them, whether they understood it or not, and God certainly could have inspired scripture that was applicable in the day it was written and thousands of years later. Certainly their situations are important in bringing them to a point of receiving inspiration, but God is the Source of the text, and He is timeless, so He knows how scripture written 2000 yeas ago will affect people born 500 years from now, and He inspired it accordingly.

Rapture and time line for tribulation period? or not? I think the discussion actually is evidence of our fallen condition and our tendency to pride. We are so proud of our smarts and we can figure things out. We question what God did say, like Eve was led to do back before the fall. We argue - not a very flattering term - and we are a divided kingdom.

One question comes to my mind in these discussions repeatedly. Did you read God's word and form these opinions based on reading and re-reading of only His word, or did your opinion come from men (either authors or people you respect as being those that should know)? See Jeremiah 23:35-38 a passage that exhorts people to discuss how they see God (or what they heard from God) on an issue. Note it is what God has revealed to you directly and not through a third party- He wants that direct relationship with us. Someone saying "God says" should be another flashing warning light- read the section before Jer 23:35.

Sadly I don't think scripture is read enough. In my mind this means reading multiple times as well, and consistently, developing the habit of regular reading and reading it through on a regular basis (all parts). Wouldn't that be the best way for us to get His words written on our hearts?

If you search for Him, He will let you find Him.

The call of God

God desires relationship with us. I've said that many times before. I've been reading Jeremiah 15, and will probably develop an index card of notes to speak from if given the opportunity. In this chapter is a couple of interesting points.

To set the background - God has had enough of Judah's sin, and He is sending judgment. This can seem like God is going to unfairly make people suffer. Any decision we make could/would make people suffer, but this is the God who created us, and knows us intimately. He knows our hearts, so if He sends judgment - we have gotten to the point of NO hope. This statement has to be qualified as well, there is never NO hope with God, but maybe rather we've gotten so far outside of His will that He is sending correction.

What does God want from us? Well He wants to be a part of our lives, He wants us to grow in our knowledge and dedication to Him, He wants us to share Him with others, because its a method (not the only) He chooses to use to show His majesty. So here we are in Jeremiah 15, ultimately we find out that the people of Judah had chosen to turn away from God, after being taught and led by Him for generations. His love is long suffering for generations, if we suffer 10 minutes, we think we're entitled to some kind of recognition.

So here comes His judgment, why because these people had gotten outside His will and needed correction. Will the rapture happen and the tribulation period- I've believed for rapture for a long time, most recently I've questioned it. What are my motives? I want to miss the time worse than any other time in the history of the world- who wouldn't? I do see examples of God sheltering His chosen people, so rapture is a plausible possibility. How this pertains to Jeremiah 15 is this, God is giving the people direction based on His decision. His will for them is to die, or to be killed in war, or starve, or go into exile with nothing. Not very pleasant choices, but clearly God's call for their lives.

When we think about the call of God we get marvelous visions of doing great work. We're always asking kids what they want to do or be when they grow up, creating this marvelous euphoria within them that they are going to be a rich doctor or lawyer. Live a life of luxury and ease. As parents thats what we want for them. Good things, and God is our parent, He wants good things for us.

God wants us to know Him, and to speak His words for Him. Moses had to speak God's word to the Israelites in the wilderness, because hearing directly from God was too fearful for them. It doesn't really matter our occupation, or position in life, He still desires us to speak for Him. He might call some of us to a life less than what we dreamed of as kids, our speaking for Him might reach only a few, certainly less than others probably. Those few are important though.

I've wondered what He wanted me to do, and I've thought about it in terms of occupation, position, and yes I gotten ideas about "doing great things for God". What He wants is an obedient son/daughter, going where he/she is sent, and speaking His words to those before us.

Stem Cell thoughts

There was an interesting story on the news tonight, supposedly we may be capable of generating some kind of stem cells from our own body. I think its neat God has led scientists to this discovery. I also wonder if this technique would have been found if use of embryonic stem cells hadn't been opposed. We'll never know.

Christians being right, and God's ways being best just aren't seen as being politically correct in this day and age. I marvel at the way God set things up, and am regularly amazed at the faith it takes to deny Him. More it seems than the faith to accept Him.

Come quickly Lord, the world needs Your touch.

Absence or denial of God

All our troubles come about because of a lack of focus on God. I made that statement several years ago, and the more I live the more I see the truth of it. We need Him in our lives. I just read the passage about Zedekiah in Jeremiah. He was king, the city was surrounded and he met secretly to ask if Jeremiah had a message from God for him. Jeremiah did- surrender the city, Zedekiah would be protected and honored, and live out his life. Don't surrender the city, it would be burned, he would be killed and unburied, his family would be destroyed.

Looking at it from our side of scripture, the choice seems clear. Most of us would even boast that we would have done what God asked. Are you sure? Have you ever remembered a time when you felt God leading, and yet you didn't act? Maybe you listened to the dirty joke, maybe you continued the spread of what you realized was gossip. Why did you do those things? Were you afraid of what someone might think or do if you didn't "go along". Isn't that what Zedekiah did? He let his fear of man trump what God asked him to do, and we today in a lot of ways do just the same thing.

I see two reasons, our understanding of God is limited. Zedekiah believed God could not protect him from men. I see myself "called on the carpet" if I share my faith too much in class, and a student decides that he/she could use that to their advantage. I see the scene clearly. If God wants me to share to a lost and dying world, He probably will protect me, but I entertain doubt- like Zedekiah. Doubt leads to actions- a very true statement.

Health care has been in the news, and this is the example I've been thinking of that has brought me back to my original statement. We as a people have lost our focus on God. It is a tragedy that people suffer for lack of health care. It is even a greater tragedy that a lack of the knowledge of God is what is fueling this. People generally have denied God, or turned from Him leading them to the conclusion that this life is all there is. If that is so then "I" need to live as long as "I" can. Therefore "I" need health care. ("I" is there to emphasize a selfish voice).

Along another fork there is the mentality that since this life is it, I need to be rich. If "I" can sue a doctor for malpractice, then I'm set for life. Doctors are human, humans make mistakes, allowing for other humans to come along and take advantage of this. Do you know of any lawyers in Congress that have made part of their fortunes seeking damages to "injustices"? Isn't it interesting that their fee is based on settlement amount? Some doctors are careless, others make decisions that ultimately are incorrect. How this ties into health care costs is that those doctors are going to order every test possible in order to limit the possibility they are incorrect. These tests costs, which isn't a problem because if you have insurance they will "cover it".

Another fallacy "its covered". In order for insurance to work as designed more people have to pay in more than they will ever get back in claims. Also part of what is paid in goes to the salaries and overhead of the insurance companies. So paying for health care through insurance is more expensive than out of pocket as the need arises. Couple that with the prices of procedures and it becomes a runaway freight train.

"Government health care will let your doctor decide what is best for you"- this sounds wonderful, but what aren't they telling you? At some point your doctor may say its best for you to die, because its too expensive to treat you. To truly control costs procedures will be limited that someone decides would gain the most benefit.

I'm out in the weeds, if your focus is on God, and you have a relationship with Him, then you aren't self focused. You know there is life beyond this one, and you long for it. So why want to live as long as you can here? You realize doctors are human, and sometimes they make mistakes, and you aren't looking to be set for life (you and your children), so you wouldn't be looking to litigate. If you are a Christian doctor and you realize your mistake (or that someone is suffering) you are going to do your part to rectify that mistake in this lifetime. Litigation goes away from both sides. Malpractice insurance (with their premiums goes away)- health care costs are reduced. Lawyers have to get real jobs. Side note - lawyers should read through the Bible yearly- actually everyone should. See how the lack of focus on God has got us to where we are at? Both forks end at the Cross.

We need to be less like Zedekiah. I was going to say - "and more like the Apostle Paul", but he penned the lines about doing things he didn't want to, and not doing the things he should. He too was closer to the human condition than we sometimes want to acknowledge. The human condition of selfishness and this life focused- as opposed to God focused.

Two recent thought streams

Two things have been on my mind lately, and instead of continuing to mull them over, I thought I would share.

The first is the sanctuary temperature, but it could apply to your house, your business, your car. It is remarkable to observe people in the context of whether they feel they are too hot or too cold. Have you ever met anyone that was "just right" temperature wise. I regularly hear turn up the air (or down- the point being change the set point), because "I" am "burning up" or "I" am "cold". I feel the thermostat is set properly when I hear an equal number of requests for adjustment in opposite directions.

I've been told I over analyze so maybe I'm guilty. I'm starting to be more aware of the word "I". I am this, I want this, I think this. Can we really ever please "I"? Lets take the temperature and consider this. Instead of focusing on your own discomfort, consider this:
The temperature or environment could in some way clearly be worse- really hot, really cold, humid, in the sun, etc. So be thankful for the fact that it isn't.
The other thing is consider someone other than "I", are you willing to be a little hot if it means another person won't feel as cold? Or are you willing to be a little cold if it will make someone less hot.

This temperature discussion may seem silly but it is a pretty good indicator of how self focused a group of people tend to be. God in his wisdom even in families put this indicator. Are you willing to experience slight (compared to what it could be it is slight) discomfort in order that your brother or sister (wife, husband, child) will feel more comfortable.

Interesting....

Now for the other thought. I was reading in Jeremiah about Hannaniah the "prophet" who is as it turned out to be a false prophet that God let die. "False prophets" ordinarily ignored, considered in my mind to be people who "just don't know God", but then I wondered if I was one, and thought about the road that leads to that point.

A prophet is generally one that has messages from God for the people. That Hannaniah was called one to me indicates a history of some kind that he was recognized as hearing from God. Most of us don't get a label unless we have performed, or others have witnessed some evidence that supports the label. So someone recognized him as hearing from God - or at least there seemed to be evidence of it.

Well he then prophesizes good news - the Babylonian threat will be gone within two years and the temple restored, and treasures taken returned. In actual fact the temple was restored, and the treasures sent back. The only mis-information he proclaimed was the time frame. Instead of two years, it was actually after two generations of the king. So his prophecy wasn't as far off as you initially think, he got a word wrong. It was clearly false though.

Why did he say it, and he clearly said it with a passion. I wonder if he saw the truth (that the people would suffer and the city of Jerusalem would be destroyed) and talked himself into something other than what God had planned. All of us humans want to avoid suffering (then and today), I have heard recently of a statement that the rapture isn't clearly taught. Could it be that it won't happen, that I might have to endure the tribulation period -if that happens in my life time. Am "I" looking for the easy way out. Was Hannaniah so longing that Jerusalem would not be destroyed that he convinced himself of his position -even though it wasn't of God?

Of course the other side of the rapture coin is that - not expecting it, we don't have to prepare for Jesus' return. We don't have to live "ready", we don't have to be in a hurry to witness. That position also avoids human hardship or stress.

Back to Hannaniah, God let him die because he misled people. Was he misled by satan, similarly to the way Eve was in the garden? Satan confused Eve (and Adam) to the point where she acted on it resulting in her death.

OK I've over-analyzed enough. It is neat all the parallels in the Bible. The question remains - how do we not be misled. The people in Hannaniah's day listened to him, a part of them liked what they heard, so it became easier for them to believe him and agree with him. In our walks we also can be misled by people we think have God's message, that is a clear indicator of the need for us to seek God and personally learn to listen to Him on an individual level. Anything other than what we get ourselves from God could be misleading us.

Books written by Christian authors can be dangerous in this regard- read them yes, but ask God to confirm or deny for you - He will - He seeks relationship. I think the initial resistance to "anything but King James" is also a result of this (interesting that this came up last night), the reality that people can easily be misled by the works of man would naturally bring about resistance to a new version or versions of God's word. While it is possible for a Bible version or parts to be corrupted (unintentionally or intentionally) it is also possible that God actively protects His word.

He has definitely brought things to my mind when reading and contemplating His word. In many different versions too. The advice I heard once of "the best Bible version is the one YOU will read" is still true. God will speak to those who seek Him, He desires to.

Another update

I feel led to. We have an intercessory prayer group at church, and we
meet on Tuesday night. After a discussion, and the naming of the sick
that were on our hearts to pray for, I was asked to pray. The words
came with difficulty. God can heal all those people, He wants to, but
often He doesn't - why?

Then in preparing my notes for Sunday night I opened to Jeremiah 19 -
eventually we get to the part where He is the potter and we are the
clay. We need to see things from His perspective and what He wants, and
not what we think should happen. He sees the eternal, we see now.

I had felt led to pray for Iran and its people. God has a presence
there, He does everywhere.

I had felt led to pray that He will make Jerusalem a light for the
world, and yet I did not.

So as I began to type my notes I thought I needed to type out my
prayers.

Come soon Lord.

More recent thoughts

Well its been a while since I last updated this blog.

I created some additional ones- one for my trailwork activities. I was
corrected tonight, it should be called trail fun. It is a blast, and I
have a good time doing trailwork.

I created one for my math classes to post HW - pray that helps them.

I created one for my Sunday night Bible study. My notes had appeared in
this one, but no more.

I've read books- Battlefield of the mind by Joyce Meyers is one I would
recommend.

The Lord has worked, and I seek prayer concerning going after a PhD.
Apologetics interests me- the more I read the Bible the more I see that
we often don't live life as God intended- I'm included in "we"- I'm
hoping to get over myself and put Him first- even more so. Furthermore
His way is better than what we have been able to come up with so far.

Various recent thoughts

Leadership and being an effective leader has been a recent issue that has come up in my life on several fronts. The first front is meeting a new person who is in leadership training of sorts, at least its a topic he is taking a class in. Another front is watching the leadership of my place of work, and some of their actions. Finally there is my leadership, since I am in a position of that kind of sorts. I almost forgot - our national leadership.

This has led me to think of the guidelines in Timothy and Titus (Bible) for leaders. Also of the passage in Isaiah about they will be led by children. If the proper credentials (Bible ones) of a leader are not there then it will be just like being led by a child. There is also Jesus example of leadership- being a servant to those under you. That is rarely seen today. I'm also reading in Jeremiah, and those times prior to Babylonian overthrow of Judah are much like the times we live in today.

I'm teaching a math class this summer and I was thinking about the need to pray for my students. Some come in and try to do the minimum to get by, others have family and personal life issues that are not conducive to being successful in class. Its a wide range and throw in the fact that they need different amounts of help. Some younger students have only forgotten the concepts, and pick back up on them quickly. Other students have never seen the concepts and it takes them longer to grasp and apply them.

One of my strategies I am planning to use is to post a math problem every day, or have a quiz every day, to make that their HW grade. God has recently led me to the knowledge to be able to do that, I just hope I will follow through effectively.

I got thinking about infinity. I thought God is infinity in math terms. We can catch a glimpse, but can never fully understand or comprehend. Then I thought about ways to define infinity, and one of my favorite ways to consider it is 1/0. Technically and this is taught by math instructors the world over "division by zero is undefined", "not allowed", I don't know what you have heard. It is precisely true - we cannot define God, so I like it.

God is the "one", He can be more than that but He says "I am", He exists. We (all humans everywhere are the zero. Without God we are but a bucket of dust (just add water). When we place God over us (1/0 -His rightful position) then infinity is possible, anything and all things are possible. When we try and put ourselves over God (0/1) we have exactly zero or nothing, as any math person will tell you.

The neat thing is that God truly is everywhere in our lives. We try an compartmentalize our spiritual life and keep it separate from our secular life, but we cannot. He brought this to my attention today, and I'm so grateful for it.

The other thing that came to mind is our need to find truth. I'm starting Jeremiah 9 and its about how we as people tell lies. We do it so often and so well we lose sight of the truth. We must go to God to find truth and no other. Why no other? Because the truth is another person may really be convincing, but a liar just the same. Parents can lie to you (most don't have that intention, but it is possible), grandparents, good friends, etc. The only Persons you can trust is the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). The only thing we can truly trust is our time spent with God and what He tells us.

Another thought I've been contemplating is this: if you are dis-satisfied with another person (spouse, mom, dad, child, co-worker) and you complain about this person, are you not acting out of selfishness and pride? The reason I say this is because God has been merciful to us, each of us has broken the 10 commandments (probably several- maybe close to all), so we deserve a life of misery. Justice would dictate we deserve punishment, yet God is merciful and places good things in out lives. Your spouse, child, parents, may not be perfect and probably are far from it, but they have occasionally done nice things for you in all likelihood. Considering what you a sinner deserves, there has been blessing in your life and yet since those people aren't perfect you focus on the times they let you down, so I ask my question again - are you being selfish and prideful? Are you dis-satisfied with the blessings God has given you because it isn't enough (as many or the kind you want)?

Between Isaiah and Jeremiah and before our Wednesday night activities ended for the summer, our group studied Collosians. In looking in my New testament notes, I noticed that I hadn't made notes on Collosians, So I took it as God's perfect timing.

I've been delayed in posting these notes due to the end of the semester seriousness at work. I'm getting around to it though.

The youth showed a movie, and we had praise and worship that prevented our group from meeting for Jeremiah.

All in all - just busy.


Col 1

Its interesting that although Paul didn't start this church, or ever meet them, he took their profession of faith as being legitimate. He prayed for these people that their walk with God would be wonderful. What a wonderful example of un-selfishness, and un-selfcenteredness. Praying for those you don't personally know and wanting the very best for them. Its also an example of realizing He did not know the hearts of these people, but that God did. Do we really know anyone's heart- only God does.

Now an incomparable Christ, these folks had had some influences that had caused Jesus to be on the same level of comparison to other influential people. Paul is telling them that Jesus is God and He is above others to such an extent that comparison takes away from God, and adds to the stature of those compared to God. They were not placing an emphasis on God, He may have been a part of their lives, but He was not the focus. Do we do that today?

God through Jesus created everything, and then He Himself poured Himself into flesh to dwell among men, and gain their redemption.

We formerly are ignorant of God and consequently do our own things. Once we realize our nature we must cling to Him. Paul rejoices in his sufferings for another's sake. This sounds to me like a sacrficial suffering, a giving up of something for the good of others. Do we do that? Do we risk our own suffering for the good of others?

We should proclaim Jesus and admonish men to turn to Christ through God's power. Its our great commission, and just like Paul was sent we are sent. Furthermore we don't haveto be the center of the world, but God is. Others are working where we are not.

The mystery spoken of in this chapter that Jesus in us, the hope of glory. God kept it from the saints, and satan thought by killing Jesus (who really gave up His life) he would thwart God's plan.

Col 2

Paul struggled for those he had not met. He is calling for unity- where does unity in a church come from? focusing on Christ- making Him the leader.

Christ is the source of ALL wisdom and knowledge. So things are to be measured against God's word, in this way we can't be deluded. People who hide things and "roll them out" it just isn't scriptural.

He rejoices in the Spirit, and warns about becoming a captive of the traditions of men. Or men's deception and empty philosophy.

Christ alone makes us complete, not our educational level, or our work. Our baptism is our action of acceptance of Christ's work on the cross. Men could torture him, brutalize Him, and nail Him to a cross, but He was still in control. He gave up His spirit. He came back. Men are helpless against the will of God, but we don't like to admit it.

Yet we still listen to men rather than God. We should seek that fellowship with Him in all things. Do we. Certainly we should obey those in authority over us (it is commanded) but God will also (if we let Him and listen for Him) reinforce the things that He wants. Wouldn't it be a joy to have a boss ask you to do something, and at the same time hear God reinforcing that you should indeed do what is asked. I think this is why the apostles asked should they follow God or man? They were pointing out that there should be agreement. If there is not it can be a witnessing opportunity, and definitely a prayer topic.

In 1 Cor 10:13 it speaks of temptations, temptations allow us to get better, they are a test review, allow us to see different variations of God's word and His ways. The comforting part is we won't actually be tempted beyond our ability to handle it for God is watching out for us.

This chapter speaks of focus, we should be Christ focused and not our works, not our suffering (self focused), and certainly not comparing our walk to that of
another.
If Christ asks you to do something will He be with you? -YES
If you are focused on others, are you focused on Christ? - NO
If you are focused on the task at hand, or the fear of an upcoming trial, are
you focused on Christ? -NO
If you are focused on a specific goal personal and not Christ's) are you
focused on Christ? - NO
If you submit to the decrees of others- are you focused on Christ? - NO We
should submit to authority, but in checking with Christ.
If we focus on Christ only then fleshly indulgence be removed. Focus on Him.

Focus on Christ

Col 3

He continues the focus theme, having Paul admonish us to focus on Heaven and His kingdom, On His son Christ. We are to set our minds on the things above - not on earth.

A life hidden with Christ, this means we have given up all of our self focus for and have focused our efforts on doing His work. In glory we will be revealed. A focus on our self leads to fleshly results. The selfishness of the world will be what brings about God's wrath. Debt, spending future earnings for pleasures now is really very selfish.

Selfishness is something we all have exhibited, and we still have to be aware of its effects. Most pronounced is that it takes our focus off of God.
Selfishness brings about anger - you hurt me,
I'm going to get you back - is an exhibition of wrath. Maybe done
malice and slander (gossip). It all stems from a "me" focus and a "me" interest. Don't lie is commanded - If our old self is truly laid aside, why would we need to lie? Or even feel the need to lie?

If we let God renew us- through learning about Him (which takes action and effort on our part), and then we let God lead us. Physical differences between people fade. Race prejudice goes away.

One of the themes that is often brought to my attention is the way people get to where they don't care for each other. lame is often fixed on the other person, "he did this", "she said that" and it reminds me of just how self focused we are. Consider for a moment eternity and spending it with that person you "hate" or "don't care to be around", or "I can't forgive". I'm sure the argument came to your mind that you are "not" the problem, and it is the other person. I'm sure examples came to mind of actions they have done that convince you that their heart is not where it needs to be. Your's however is in the right place - isn't it?

God's prescription: put on a heart of compassion. Now this sounds good but how? Give up self interests and its easy to do. Let the "hurt" go, holding onto it is selfish. Not letting go of self interests make putting on a heart of compassion impossible (at least very hard).

Bear other's burdens - forgiving - who and what you need to let go of in order to give up your self. Once you die to self (ever heard that?) then you can forgive. Love brings about unity.

More on how to give up self- let the word of Christ dwell within you, you have to act (study) to get it there. It gets there through study.

Then once selfishness is rejected and Christ's ways adopted, do everything for the Lord as unto the Lord- What do you get? Why do you care- your selfish ways have been rejected. Back to the person(s) you don't care for, God is a part of the relationship, and if you let Him (by rejecting your selfish wants) he will lead you. He will steer you if you let Him. This is "doing His work", this is hiding yourself in Christ. This is the only way we can be assured we don't do wrong.

Col 4

In a submitted position (we realize we have a Master), and we will grant justice and fairness. We will also constantly be in fellowship with Him (in prayer), and we will exhibit the attitude of thanksgiving. In this submitted position and consequently an attitude of prayer, we will then be in position for God to use us for His glory and act through us. He will put the words in our mouths. This comes from prayer.

If we do all this what happens? We will feel lonely, like we are the only ones. Part of that is our selfishness trying to sneak back in. Part of that is assuming we can know the hearts of other - which we cannot. So how does Paul end the letter? by reminding them that they are not alone in their walk. We not alone either, many people are praying for us, we don't even know who. What parent doesn't pray and want the best for their children? What spouses don't want the best each other? Children even pray for their parents. That is just immediate family. There is then those in your extended family, and those in your church family. You are not alone.

The start of Jeremiah and thoughts going into it.

After doing a study of the book of Isaiah I felt strongly led to continue. Our
Sunday night Bible study seemed the place to continue. In thinking about it a
very strong truth came to mind: We have two choices, we can (1) wait for God's
direction, and fit (Him) in our busy lives or (2) we can read and study the
Bible and listen to His voice and fit ourselves into His plans. There is merit
in waiting on God, the Bible says those that do will mount up with wings like
eagles. It also says those that seek God will find Him. Its a good thing to
fill your life and time with the things of God.

I started reading Jeremiah and in the light of tough economic times and Israel's
rebirth approaching 70 years, one particular section stuck out. I didn't
initially write it down but that just made my re-reading more careful as I
searched to confirm I did actually see it. Its the section where God tells
Jeremiah not to pray for the people of Judah anymore, He has set judgement in
motion and is not going to listen. In light of the other things in Jeremiah,
God's example of His longsuffering and His desire that people come back to Him
make our efforts seem trivial.

I wondered if one of the signs of end times would be that God tells His people
a similar message. There is a lot of symmetry in the Bible with similar
circumstances often repeating. I personally have a burden for the lost, I would
not want any to suffer or be separated from God. I also know God will give them
additional chances, and He will bring each individual to a point of decision.

He is ready even in the trib period to reach out to those that call to Him.

What an awesome God.

In worldly terms Jeremiah was a failure. He preached a long time to a people
that did not want to hear his message, did not turn from their ways, and he
watched first hand the death of his nation. His burden for his people often led
him to tears. Much like the tears of a parent when a child chooses something
that the parent knows will cause him/her hardship and anguish.

In heavenly terms he stayed faithful to God, and spoke what he he was given to
speak. Jeremiah realized who God is and he realized that His ways are the best
and really the ONLY ways to consider. Even in the midst of decline and the
destruction around him.

God is the only answer worth pursuing.

Chapter 1
God knew Jeremiah before he was born, before he was conceived, and yes all the
way back to when the world was formed. He had a plan for Jeremiah's life. He
has a plan for your life- from way back then. All we have to do is submit to
His ways.

God told Jeremiah His plan for him. Why? because Jeremiah sought God, and
wasn't selfish enough to try and use that information for worldy advantage. He
was submitted to God's authority.

How did he react when told? Jeremiah lacked the confidence that he could do
what God asked him. How many of us go to job interviews with all our weaknesses
hidden and brimming with confidence. Its funny my life experience has taught me
that the people who are most confident they can do a job are often the ones that
perform the poorest. Over and over again I've seen it. We've all given the
"know it alls" plenty of room so when they fall on their face we won't be their
cushion. I got to be careful here, I also believe that we should be praying for
the enlightenment of the "know it alls", and be there to help them up.

Jeremiah wasn't the driven individual, the corporate ladder climber, he rather
placed his focus on God and look what happened.

God went on to tell Jeremiah that He would be with him whereever he went, and
that he would see some fearful circumstances, but not to be afraid.

God placed His Word in Jeremiah's mouth. He has blessed us in the US by putting
His Word (Bible) in our hands. He also said every word He gave Jeremiah would
come true, and for us that means He said His Word (Bible) would come true.

What an awesome God.

God helped Jeremiah to see His ways. He showed Jeremiah things and made sure
the signs were interpreted correctly. He coached Jeremiah, He wants the same
type of relationship with you. What did Jeremiah have to do? He had to pay
attention and let God do the work. He had to submit to God's ways, ask Him in,
then let Him prepare Jeremiah for the purpose He had in mind.

He wants to do the same for us.

Notes discussed that finish Isaiah on 09318.

Ch 65 New heavens and new earth

Glory to God, some people find Him without looking for Him (Israel). He chose
Israel not the other way around. They can seek Him without asking and will
find Him without looking. He says to them "here am I", He is reaching out to
those that don't want relationship and tried to ignore Him.

He has reached out to a rebellious people, people who walk following their own
thoughts (turning their backs to Him-going their own way) rather than His
which is not good.

Still reaching even though their rebellion provokes Him, they offer sacrifices
to other gods- make up religions (potluck- Message). Like a spouse committing
adultery this people put something other than God first. They spend the night in tombs- worshipping the dead and seeking answers from them. Is relying on "tried and true" similar, rather than checking with God?

They eat forbidden foods, and unclean meat, try to hide from Him. All the
things He has said are not in their best interest and yet they do it. Like
children who test the rules.

Deny fellowship with each other- make a hierarchy - one person thinks they are
better than another. Not good not God's way

These things reach God's nostrils- He can smell them, it makes Him gag

He seemingly keeps silent, He seemingly accepts, but our sins are written
before Him and he is warning He will repay. Our sin and iniquity of not
following God's direction will manifest itself within our being. It will cause
us health and other problems, and yet we don't realize this and reject our own
ways. It is also generational, our disobedience shows up in our children, they
follow our examples. Even though God is willing to forgive us, sometimes the
consequences of our former sins have to be dealt with.

vs 7 - so none of us is good enough, and God will repay, which sounds hopeless.

Vs 8 yet God will have clusters of followers, no matter how bad it gets, and He
will act on their behalf. He will protect the faithful. Israel will have
peace He will establish it. Even Achor- he was destroyed for holding back
goods set aside for the Lord (Israel was commanded to stone him and his family)
(Joshua 7:16-26). Those that seek Him He will let find and then He will
protect.

Those that forsake God, and forget Him. Ususally to go after fortune (money- a
god a lot of people follow), and destiny -(luck) doing what they want. He will
destine them to the sword, but He reminds He did call to them, He did speak to
them and they chose not to listen, choosing rather to do things He does not
want.

Vs 13- He takes care of His servants- those submitted to Him anchoose Him.
Blessings will be recognized as coming from God. While others will suffer for
their choices. Its interesting that we recognize the importance of "choice" in
many areas- schools, neighborhoods, cars, but yet in others we deny choice -
serving God. People who don't choose God who has called to them will die. God
will hide former things from His sight- He will forget.

New heavens and new earth created- former things forgotten. People will
rejoice in His creation (we can do that already) as they should. Jerusalem for
rejoicing and the people of Jerusalem for gladness.

No more weeping or crying
long life a norm (brought back)
not overtaken - peace and stability
God will be there- personally having relationship with us
No evil or harm.

A wonderful picture of heaven (new earth and new heavens) Isaiah 65:17-25 -
fellowship with God- His presence, like the garden of Eden.


Ch 66

vs 1 we often look to our external works or accomplishments as a reason to for
God to love us. He is saying- as big as we can imagine, He is bigger still.
Also our accomplishments come from His creation - He made the parts and gave us
the wisdom to assemble it. Not only that He already owns what we think we
"give" Him materially.

Its our internal condition that gets His attention- humble and contrite of
spirit, trembling at His word. This is what He seeks.

Hypocrisy (vs 3) people choose their ways and not God's. Killing an ox like
killing a person. Sacrificing a lamb like breaking a dog's neck. I think the
point here is motives and choices. We choose to do things we think God should
"accept" rather than ask God what he wants and obey. We often think we are so
smart, and we delight in it.

Yet it will lead to punishment, He will expose our nonsense. (Prov 10:24)
What the wicked fear they will face, what the righteous desire He will give
them. He desires to be involved, and not letting Him be fully involved makes
us wicked. He also knows our fears, and our fear should be of Him.

He calls, He speaks - we ignore rejecting Him and choosing to do our own thing.
Things that are not good for us.

We should respect His word and believe it and listen to what He tells us
through it. Then obey, even though it will in all likelihood cause family
problems. We are putting God first and rightly so. Our families will taunt us
when we choose God. Message question - they will ask if God is so good , why
aren't we happy?

Answer?

They ask not because they want to know, but rather to justify their choices
(the ones not of God).

Why do some Christians not seem happy, is it a burden for the lost, Jesus
expressed anguish over Jerusalem.

Vs 7-9 a reference to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel prior to
the time of Jacob's trouble. The 7 years of trib. It did happen in one day
too. Another reference to pregnancy and the certainty of a future event.

The (new?) Jerusalem is a joyous place, God will make Jerusalem's light shine.
Nations will give their glory to it at His word. Some had shed tears over it -
I believe Jesus was one of them. New Christians can learn there and be fed.
It will become apparent the Lord is acting and we will have great boldness-
those of us that are His. The Lord comes in fire with chariots like whirlwind
- the way Elijah was taken. He will slay many- He knows their hearts, and many
will come to an end altogether.

The hand of the Lord will be known to His servants- His actions will be clear.
The Lord will also be indignant with His enemies.

All nations and tongues will see His glory, He'll send missionaries to all
nations, and the Jews will come back to Israel from all nations (they will be
sent back). They will be presented like an offering.

All mankind will bow to Him and worship Him.

They will also see those that did their own thing (rebelled) - and the result
of it.

Amen

Notes discussed 09311

Blessings also from God- better than we expect. Peace and righteousness, no violence (with His help) I think we will get it. No devestation or destruction. The Lord will be our light. God will be our glory- He will give us some of His, peace and possesion of the land us, the work of His hands. Everybody will be important.

Can we have these blessings now? I believe we can, He will set up His kingdom and it will be worldwide, but as we follow Him and submit to Him I believe we will be blessed. Doesn't mean we won't have issues and trials, but the very presence of God in our lives will make them feel insignificant.

God will hasten the happening of this when it is His time. Praise God it will happen though. Smallest becoming a clan and the least a mighty nation. There are no prerequisites in God's world, all He wants is a freely submitted heart and mind to His will.

Ch 61

The versus Jesus read to start His ministry.
Bring good news- Gospel message to the afflicted, bind up the broken hearted, proclaim liberty to the captives, and freedom to prisoners. To proclaim a favorable year of the Lord. Luke 4:18-19.

Next line not read by Jesus "and the day of vengeance of our God- This is picked up in Isaiah 63:4- clearly shown in Isaiah before Jesus. If He had said that would the trib period have happened back then? To comfort those that mourn, and grant those in Zion mourning Garland (beauty) for ashes. I played that song one Sunday AM - Isaiah is oft quoted in song lyrics. Gladness instead of mourning, praise instead of fainting. In a sense when we feel faint - our strength has run out, and God can work. When we mourn we acknowledge our helplessness and He can then help.

The person who feels faint and is ready to give up and that God then works to strengthen for all appearances seem strong and called oaks of righteousness. Our seeming endurance is from the Lord and He should be glorified as the giver of it. Any goodness we do is from Him and us submitting to the direction of His Spirit.

Once God strengthens us then we can rebuild. This chapter specifically refers to Israel, but believers are grafted in. God will act openly and vividly through His chosen once they turn to Him. Turn fully to Him. People that have submitted fully to the Lord that He then works through, will be recognized by others as blessed, and taken care of.

We should not submit to God and let Him work through us for worldly gain, but rather for His gain- we have to be careful of our motives.

The Lord loves justice, and He will give them their due. His people will be recognized. The nation of Israel (and grafted in believers) will be the priests to the rest of the world.

Rejoice in the Lord - He has clothed us with salvation (subtle but a gift, not earned), He wraps us in righteousness, again received from Him. Hints of the armor of God were written God through Isaiah.

Just like dressing up for a wedding, we have to put on the garments God has given us, we have to want them.

The Lord causes rigteousness and praise to spring up. Again by blessing those who honor Him.

Armor of God Eph 6:10-18
14- girded your loins with truth Isa 11:5
breastplate of righteousness Isa 59:17
15- your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace Isa 52:7
shield of faith- not mentioned
17 helmet of salvation Isa 59:17
sword of spirit not mentioned - but Isa 11:4


Ch 62

Isaiah is speaking, He gets it, that it isn't about Him and his gain but about God and that His way is far better than our way.

Isaiah (people submitted to God) will not stay silent for Zion's sake and for that of Jerusalem. He speaks, He guides, we don't listen, and maybe try to hide from. Holding onto our selfishness. Israel His nation will be righteous, and the world will see it.

They will get a new name- generally - which the Lord will call us.

We will be a beauty in the hand of the Lord (not us in our own power but Him shining through our submitted state). He will hold us, but we have to let Him, He calls us we have to answer and submit, and when we do and are firmly held in His hand - and do His bidding it is a glorious thing.

The people not forsaken, land not desolate, but like a marriage we will be joined to God .

Verse 6 and 7 - the scripture to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122:6) Peace in that city for the Jews, peace in the Lord for the church, you who remind the lord take no rest, and give Him no rest until He establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth. Pray for the millenium and the new heavens and earth expect it look for it. Parable of persistent widow Luke 18:1-8. Ten virgins (Matt 25)- five weren't prepared when the Lord came back, they didn't live in an expectant state, and were not prepared when the announcement came.

Verse 8 and 9 - a promised answer

The spoken word setting it in motion, making it happen.


Ch 63 The exiles' prayer

Here is a reference to Christ coming from the land of the enemies of the jew. Edom was against Israel. Red garments- Christ fighting for Israel- alone- He needs no help. In His wrath and anger He punishes- hasn't happened yet but spoken so assured- He needs no help. The call to "kill the infidels" has nothing to do with our God, because He can. He wants us to pray and witness that they may turn and know His peace.

Blood is life (Lev 17:11-14)- His garments will be stained with their life. In Isaiah 61:2 there is a day of vengeance. When Jesus started His ministry He stopped just short of quoting that line. The line after day of vengeance talks about a year of redemption a millenial reign- new heavens and earth. Jesus will pour out their lifeblood, He needs no help.

vs 7 The lovingkindness of the Lord, goodness granted out of His compassion and not of their merit. He states they are His people who will not deal falsely- God said it, one day it will be. He was afflicted with them, He redeemed them, He carried them, but still they rebelled.

He led them but they would not listen, He guided but they ignored, therefore they grieved the Holy Spirit. Therefore He turned and fought against them. Giving a dose of justice when His desire is to give mercy.

This caused the people to remember all the things He had done for them. Parting the Red sea, caring for them daily in the wilderness, They missed God. When He doesn't act in our lives we can miss it. Especially if we have ever experienced His moving in our lives. Most of us can look in our past and see God at work, but now in our present we go off on our own.

They call for the Lord to be apart their lives, then in true human fashion blame Him for hardening their hearts against Him. He gives us a choice there. Vs 17 He does not cause us to stray from His ways, it is our nature to do so. He has allowed it, because He wants us to come to Him fully submitted. This chapter ends by comparing the state of Israel to a people who have never known God. It takes diligence to walk with Him and a concious effort not to revert to how we naturally feel we should do things. That being said His yoke is easy, and He wants to help us. Just like flesh nailed Jesus to a tree, we have to nail our own flesh to a tree- rejecting our way for His. The better way.

Ch 64

Its stated in the Bible that there will be a worldwide earthquake when the Lord returns. In studying Revelation there is a reference, and many in other places. Isaiah is calling for the Lord's return- He gets it, we need Him, He is our only hope. This will be a worldwide event and it will be clear that it is the Lord, even to the unbeliever. He created this world after all, its His, regardless of how much and how many men may deny it.

He will move in ways that aren't predictable, but He does give warnings of His action before hand to those watching for Him. He is God who acts on behalf of those waiting for Him, who acts in the righteousness of God and rejoices that it is the way things should be done. People who study God's ways.

God was angry because of our sin, sin we continued in for a long time. Sin hurts us, its not what is best for us. It grieves God because He wants what is best for us. We all failed Him and our helpless before Him, in other words our deeds are of no count. It is only in a submitted state doing His deeds of God's righteousness that we are of any use, and that is God acting through us. What we think is "our" righteousness is nothing. Our iniquities can gain power over us, He must deliver us. We must recognize that as well. A submitted heart and being helpless, realizing our need for God.

Yet God created us, and we seek His mercy. Our sin causes us great problems, and then we run to God for a quick fix without submitting. God is seemingly silent when we want our way and not His, allowing us to go deeper into tradgedy. Then we want to blame Him for it.

Notes discussed 0934.

Ch 59 Salvation message- clear

vs1 - we often act as if God is powerless, He is reminding us again that we have the shortcomings in how we see the magnitude of God rather than Him.

Our iniquities separate us from God, not those of our parents or those we sometimes feel justified in blaming for our sins, He hides His face from our sin because He is holy. Our hands are defiled - we act ungodly (set traps for each other), and we speak lies and wickedness.

no one sues righteously- lawsuits, and no one pleads honestly.

We trust confusion, and speak lies (politics)- its our comfort zone. God's truth is something we in our natural body or inclination turn away from. To conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity is to act on our ideas rather than than God's.

v5- We embrace our own dangerous ideas - from that which is crushed a snake breaks forth - law of unforeseen circumstances- its right here in the Bible. Our plans are not well thought out, they meet an immediate need and the details or consequences are never fully considered. Yet God knows the beginning and the end so why don't we trust Him, and take His advice on issues. Is it pride?

v6 our ways our doomed to failure, all ways not from God are doomed to failure, and yet we don't seek Him.

v7 their feet run to anger - we play the blame game, placing blame sooner or later, then watch out- innocent are punished or killed

Our thoughts are thoughts of iniquity- not God's, and anytime our thoughts are not His we are in iniquity. Devestation and destruction result. Peace and justice flee, and we will make our paths crooked. Prov 3:6 - In all your ways acknowledge Him and he will make your paths straight.

Justice becomes far from us and we cry out for it, but its our actions that push it away. Another thing to think about is do we really want justice? If we realize our sin condition, do we really want what we deserve? I would say we want mercy instead- the mercy we don't like to give others. We want a pass for us, but yet hold others accountable In our condition of not seeking God nor acknowledging Him we have created darkness where we want light, we walk in gloom. We end up pushing a chain.

We stumble and grope with no vision, hoping for the justice (without really considering it) that we pushed away. We long for salvation- rescue- it too is far.

Our (not other's) transgressions are multiplied before you, our sins tell on us. V12- we know our iniquities- we realize it, we catch a glimpse of our true condition. Have to realize to repent.

we realize we have denied the Lord, and turned away from Him, we say things that oppress people and are not in agreement with God. Lies come from our heart, and justice is turned back - we are responsible for lack of justice, it is reinforced. Righteousness or right thought stands far away, we get so consumed by our unrighteous thoughts.

Truth is denied, based on our actions, the world we made, or are trying to. It is us that should be blamed and not others.

v15- whoever turns aside from evil becomes prey to those in the condition common to man (the one that is apart from God). Once we get to a condition of suffering, we want others to suffer, and we attack those that turn away. The lost attack those that come to the conclusion that there is a better way, and act to seek it. Man's desire is that we all suffer in misery. At this point we call evil good.

The Lord saw, and is still in control (thankfully). He saw no hope from us and had to act Himself, His own arm brought salvation for us. Christ seated at the right hand of God. Armor of God- yes references more later. He desired to do this (wrapped Himself in zeal as a mantle). Desired for us, to give hopeless us hope through Him. According to deeds or actions He will repay. Wrath to adversaries.

v20 a Redeemer for Zion (and those grafted in), who turn from transgression - the act of repentance- turning from. Acknowledged in v12 and turned from v20. He will covenent with those that turn to Him, placing His spirit on them and His words in their mouth. In Ch 57 after one generation of evil there is wickedness. This wickedness can be overcome by acknowledging our condition, our helplessness, and turning to Him away from it. He will place His word in the mouth of our next generations.

As I was typing this I had the thought that those that grow up in the church are somehow "less" wicked, but the description put forth in this chapter applies to all of us, and when we realize our true condition (wicked and helpless), that leads us to repentance (turning away from it and to Him) then God can work with us. His work is everlasting.

Ch 60 Zion's redeemer

A glorified Zion, the glory of the Lord has risen on Israel. Darkness will cover the earth- spiritual or literal? Nations will come to the light of Israel- the Lord. From the darkness they will seek light, in utter darkness and in realizing this condition we seek light.

They all gather and come to you, sons coming from afar and daughters being carried. Abundance of the sea turned to you, wealth of nations come to you- Israel will have something the rest of the world wants, and they will be willing to give up their money, and make a true sacrifice to get it. Livestock and gold. The world will praise God, His house will be glorified. This worldwide revival will be led by the Father Himself.

They will realize God's mercy, He who struck Israel in His anger but has an anger that doesn't linger and who readily forgets. They will seek that favor. Some won't submit and perish. I think the world has to get to a point where most people realize the fallen condition of man. Persecution of Christians will be the final step, we will be labeled as the Obstacle, we will be used as the excuse for the continuing failure of man's ways.

We then ended with a discussion on forgiveness, as part of love and forgettting wrongs- or not keeping a record of 1Cor13. Its hard for us, especially having the knowledge of good and evil (the tree God did not want us to eat from). We want to hold on, guard against future hurts. I think its about perspective - is there anyone you would not want in heaven? God wants all of His creation to be there. Is there anyone that you would give up heaven if you knew they would be there?

I hope the answer is no to both. Hell is not pleasant, and it isn't a place we should want people to go.

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Ch 56 Sins of Isaiah's day (56-59)

God's desires- preserve Justice and do righteousness. Both thought and action. His salvation is on the way, His righteousness will be revealed (will we know His thought?). How blessed we will be to understand His thoughts.

Don't profane the Sabbath, and keep from doing evil (actions).

The salvation is for all -available to all - not only Israel but all. In addition to race differences, but also those who cannot have children (eunuchs). The message translation applies this to all with defects of any kind. What a wonderful promise - as individuals - who keep the sabbath, and CHOOSE what pleases Him, and hold fast to His covenant. They will be given a name that will not be cut off, one better than sons and daughters, and the name will be everlasting.

Same with the non-jew, those that are the Lord's servants. He will bring them to His Holy mountain, and make them joyful in His house of prayer. A house of prayer for all people- available to all people. Both the jew and non-jew

Beasts of the field come, the watchmen are blind- this Is talking about Israel, they won't initially see the Lord coming back. The people watching will be blind, they will have no understanding because they have all turned to their own way. You have to be looking for the Lord to see Him coming. It will take them by surprise, it will take many by surprise- those worried about what they want.

Ch 57

The righteous man perishes. Righteous has Godly thoughts (55:7 unrighteous is to forsake their thoughts)- no one takes this to heart. Devout men are taken away and no one understands. Righteous men (having Godly thoughts - are taken away from evil. They enter peace, and rest in their beds each one who walked (action) in a Godly way. Put together- to perish is to be taken away from evil.

Verse three -lots of talk about second generation, "sons" "offspring" "children"- children not taught, have no respect for God or His gift of life - slaughter children in ravines. Ravines and clefts and crags implies a hiding nature. Even not taught we have the sense of the sins we commit and we try to conceal them - God sees all - how utterly foolish to try.

We sacrifice to our idols, idol worship is sacrifice but not to God. Again a reference to hiding- secret sin- unconfessed, what grabs us, or what we can't seem to let go of. Far from God trying to hide committing adultery- idol worship is putting something before God or in God's rightful place. Adultery is putting someone else in your spouse' place so the comparison is clear. Adultery is cheating on God. Wide bed- much room for others, looked on manhood or nakedness- which is prohibited within families, and also a part of lust. Journeyed to the king with oil (journies usually involve sacrifice -even today), perfume to please king- prince of this world. Doing this instead of serving God.

Envoys- sent others- shared our gossip and disobedience. Tired by the length of our road, but won't admit it. We often our exhausted or "busy" when others ask us to do something, but if its something we want to do- we don't go to bed. Our strength for our desires abounds.

Fearful but not of God, we often don't respect Him because he doesn't act or say anything in response to our sin. So we foolishly lose our fear and respect. God will declare our righteousness and deeds- unrighteous thoughts and deeds are not profitable. When we cry out about our righteousness God will tell us to let our idols deliver us- which they cannot. Interesting that we cry out to God even though we often don't respect Him as we should- its a sign that we acknowledge the existence of God, even when we are not submitted to Him.

Look what happens to those that take refuge in Him - they inherit the land and will posess the mountain. To take refuge we have to give up on our ways and accept His humbly.

God will take up His people Israel- He will remove obstacles from them. He dwells on High but also with the lowly and repentant (contrite). He will not be angry forever or His creation would grow faint- God wants to forgive us. Israel rejected God - turned away from Him, but God, intends to heal Israel and has stated it- what God says happens.

The wicked (v20) are like the tossing sea and cannot be quiet (quiet before God is a sign we have submitted to Him and are listening to Him). The wicked toss up refuse and mud, and have no rest.

Ch 58 These chapters show the true condition of men

Speak out boldly - declaring the transgressions of My people (God's people) - looks like a clear command. Sin is actions, to point out sins is to tell them the ways they don't follow God. Tell this to a people who delight to know His ways, and seek Him daily. We recognize Him, we want Him around, and we follow Him, want Him to be near.

v3- Questions for God- why doesn't He see our fasts, and our humbleness. If we have that question, are we being humble? Do we try and manipulate God to do what we want, expecting Him to honor our fasts and humbleness.

This chapter checks our motives before God. Our motives are usually personal gain, we fast to create contention and strife, to and to hurt people by making ourselves out to be more than we are. The fast is not about drawing close to God but making a statement before men. Fasting should bring about humbleness and a submitted spirit before God.

v6 things to fast for - God's desires- loosen bonds of wickedness -promote His kingdom, seek the freedom of others from bondage, to let the oppressed go free. The point is it isn't for our gain, it is for other's gain we should fast - which is Gain for Him - glory to God.

Do we fast to end hunger?

Do we fast to end homelessness, and provide necessities for those in need?

Hide from our own flesh- turn our backs on needs.

Think about it, meditate on it, pray about it. Search your motives in all things. Seek God's motives, His heart, His desire and then act accordingly.

This nation is in economic crisis- ask yourself- are people worried about their fellow man, or themselves? Do they focus on their loss or what they can do to help. People are more worried about money than they are other people- unemployment becomes a number and not a face.

We need to search motives (personal and corporate). In God's kingdom the motives will be right- catch a vision of a world where people take care of each other. There is fellowship with God, it is not about us, but its about others- in a nutshell.

Check your motives, get them in line with God's then read Isaiah 58:8. Righteousness before us the Lord protecting us from behind. We will call on Him and He will answer- again with right motives. "here I am" - maybe it is an audible response, if our motives our right we may see Him (He is coming again after all).

Remove the yoke- our bondage, our struggle with self. Jesus bought our freedom, don't reject it. It is available now for everyone.

Once the yoke is off - don't point fingers- who is to blame for all the "problems" we see? To a greater extent than we want to acknowledge it is us, and pointing fingers at others doesn't solve problems. They are solved by seeking after God's will then acting accordingly doing our part to do His will.

Speaking wickedness? Its easier than performing an act that helps others (giving ourselves to the hungry), or satisfying the desire of afflicted.

Do this and watch what happens to depression - light will rise in the darkness, and "your" gloom will become like midday. We will be continually guided by Him. To beguided we must be following, to follow we must be looking at, to look at we must seek. In serving others through submission to God- our desires will get satisfied, we'll rebuild ancient ruins - is this talking about cities, or the fall of man- restoring what God originally established, and we lost by wanting our way first. Repairer of the breach.

Sabbath- His pleasure on the sabbath- not yours. focus on His plan and not yours, His wants and not yours, seek His pleasures and not your own. Speak His words and not yours. Then we will take delight in the Lord- have that fellowship we all want with Him. Just because we don't seek our pleasure does not mean we have to be miserable, and there is a temptation there. In doing the Lord's pleasure we will find the joy we seek, the rest we desire.

Finally it is the mouth of the Lord that speaks, if you go all the way back to verse 1 it says cry out. So its not man's message, it is God's.

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Chapter 53 Jesus the suffering servant

Back up to 52:13- suffering of Jesus. Written 700 years before the cross, but in past tense, like it happened, sure that since God said it - it would happen. Most of us can't say with certainty what will happen tomorrow- much less 700 years in the future.

Who has believed? That is what it is all about believing and then confessing.
To whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed (Jesus right Hand of God) once we believe we can see Him.

No stately form - God looks on the heart not as we men do, yet Jesus was obedient.

He was despised. He wasn't eloquent or political (pleasing to listen to). Politicians practice being congenial and can say things that aren't true in such a way people hang on every word (smoothest liars we ever heard). Jesus spoke truth- they knew it was truth, and His message so scared them that they first denied it was truth and then sought to run from it (hide their faces). They killed Him to avoid hearing it. He was not esteemed probably called a trouble-maker.

Yet He was obedient and loved us, bearing OUR griefs and sorrows, He was pierced for OUR transgressions, crushed for OUR iniquity, He died that we might live. The Lord put our iniquity on His son.

The God was pleased to send His son for us, His son was pleased to to be obedient- for us. He interceded on our behalf. His taking the punishment for us allows us to have fellowship with God. It was an ACT of His love for us.

All of us (everyone) needs to acknowledge Jesus sacrifice, and accept that He took our punishment, because He loved us- He loves everyone. Part of going astray is deciding to do things our way, and yet the Lord through His love made the provision for us to come back to Him.

He was oppressed and afflicted by some of the people He was sent to take the punishment for. The screaming and spitting and striking that He endured are what we deserve. And like those who deserve punishment and accept what they feel they deserve - He was quiet. Knowing of our guilt and gladly accepting our punishment. He gave His life for us.

Again written 700 years before it happened.

Death was victory, He was rich, He gained, He was obedient, we often consider death loss.

The Lord was pleased that He was our guilt offering. Jesus had no offspring, but yet we are told He'll see His offspring. God has wonderful things in store for those who are obedient. Prosperity. Jesus justified many. He poured Himself out in death- it was His choice out of His love for us.


Chapter 54 Expansion of Zion

Earlier it mentioned Israel as bereaved of children Isaiah 49:20 now it starts out as a barren Israel. A couple that has lost a child, or can't have children face the same feelings- bereavement and barreness are good descriptions. In this context it has meant that Israel has done their own thing. They were to be a people of God and yet they rejected His leadings. So they were not the examples and the witness they could have been- barren, and bereaved. Yet through Jesus a revival would break forth and the Jews would gain many allies. The last chapter mentioned Jesus seeing His offspring after His death. God has great things in store for those who are obedient.

Growing and resettling abandoned cities, spreading out, possessing nations. When they become focused on God their maker and husband. Forgetting their past, and focusing on His future. Humiliation and disgrace will not happen.

The Lord will again take them up as His people. He will not be angry with them - He forgets. He is Holy and demands holiness and yet he forgives and forgets (one of the attributes of Love). We are far from Holy and yet we often find it difficult to forget- we need to work on our love. He turned away in a moment of anger and yet will have compassion on His people.

The days of Noah and the promise not to flood the earth again, He has sworn not to be angry or rebuke. A Husband swearing not to be angry with His bride, nor rebuke her, but always showing lovingkindness and compassion.

Oh afflicted one- He will comfort them- He will comfort the afflicted. The storm tossed - He is bigger than any storm. Those that can't find comfort elsewhere - some exhaust all possibilities. This is talking about israel as a nation, but is it? Israel seldom hears comforting words.

He will comfort the afflicted and storm tossed and those that can't find comfort. He will protect them, He will teach their sons. The well being of sons will be great.

Oppression and terror will be far away as He protects. Any assailing will fail- because the Lord isn't going to allow it. Vs 17 No weapon will prosper. Every accusing tongue will be condemned. This is our heritage.


Ch 55 Expansion of Zion -an invitation to ALL to enter His kingdom and share His blessings

Wonderful chapter and I think a glimpse of the Millenial reign.

Everyone who thirsts come to the waters- Jesus is living water- anyone who wants salvation- it is available. Why would you not?

No money- come buy and eat - in the millenial reign people will care for each other rather than their own selfish interests. Hunger will be no more. Without cost the needs will be met for food and drink - Glory to God

Very different from today where life seems to be a contest of getting "things" or "toys". We struggle, and some take advantage of others to get things. If we all truly take care of each other - won't we have a delightful abundance? God also teaches us deep things- solid food that Paul talks about later, listening to Jesus is getting fed- His word is bread we know not of (Samaritan woman). He will covenant with us because of His mercy, and he will take care of us. Nations will run to glorified Israel- glorified by God actively leading them.

Seek Him while He may be found- If you seek Him you can find Him. Call upon Him- He longs to answer.

Vs 7 let the evil forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts. Almost like actions are sin making us wicked, and thoughts not in line with God's make us unrighteous. We need to seek His heart and mind so our thoughts and actions align with Him. The Lord abundantly pardons our shortcomings if we keep returning to Him.

His thoughts are not our thoughts- we must pray and ask Him how to bring ours into submission. Our ways our not His ways- what we do without His guidance is not what He desires (ch 56). Our actions must be brought into submission as well. His ways and thoughts are higher than ours- we tend toward our own selfish desires, He sees the big picture.

Imagery of rain and snow and growing- His word, His desire does not return to Him empty. It may take time while we tend to be too now focused. What He desires is accomplished, His word succeeds where it is sent as well. Does this mean as we take in His word we will be conformed to Him- absolutely.

Doing that will fill us with joy, and we will be led in peace. Nature will applaud, instead of thorns a cyprus will come up. Gen 3;18 the fall -thorns and thistles will come up because of Adam's disobedience, In right relationship with God, that will have ended.

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Chapter 49 Servant of Jehovah

Previous chapters 40-48 a leading idea is that God true predictions of the future are clear evidence of His deity. Chapters 49-55 talk about His servant - sometimes it seems to be Christ, other times it seems to be Israel. God desires all nations come to Him - we tend to give up on people - we should praise Him He does not.

Listen to me from islands and peoples from afar (the ends of the earth). Description of Messiah - too small a thing to raise Israel- but will make a light to the world, salvation available to the ends of the earth. The earth -humanity would not embrace Him. Salvation is available for all and it is presented to all.

He rules (leads) through serving others- His example for us- how do we lead?

vs 8-13 The Lord is taking care of Christ, He will lead and take care of those the Lord has given Him. He comforts His people.

verse 14 - what about Israel - they feel forgotten, forsaken, but the Lord reassures. A mother will forget her child before the Lord will forget Israel - Israel inscribed on the palms (cross?). They are not forgotten, they will be protected - destroyers leave and will wear the jewels like a bride. Vivid imagery of His love. When we feel like He isn't there- He is. We will forget God before He forgets us.

Enemies far away, children that they were bereaved will speak- impossible in human temrms. God will do the impossible for them. Israel instead of being hated by the world will be esteemed, they will be protected- not plotted against to be destroyed. Wait upon the Lord and you will not be ashamed.

Again against seemingly impossible odds and conditions God will take care of Israel. Versus 24 and 25 are about standing for someone, often used, very comforting.

Chapter 50 Servant of Jehovah

God did not reject israel, they rejected Him. Verse 2 He went to them and found no one. He sought them out and yet they were not interested. They turned away, we turn away, in some things we don't feel we can trust Him. Boxes - life issues- faith - all areas should be surrendered but yet we hold on to them. When we do we act as though God is not able.

Verse 4 - I read this as an example ofthe indwelling of the Holy Spirit- Jesus within us- if we let Him. He can be our tongue- gives us the words to say, to sustain the weary. He is with us daily as we wake up- constantly, He opens our ears to hear His voice. Obedience to Him is mentioned here.

Jesus suffering- struck back, plucked beard, spit on- God was with Him

God helps us,and that is not a disgraceful thing- we often prize our self sufficiency.

I will not be ashamed- endured short term - looking at long term reward. Often we need to look beyond the present to God. A confidence in the workings of God, in knowing God- Elijah had it with the profits of Baal. Setting your jaw like flint is sheer determination. Going back to 49:24-25 and setting your determination like flint is what God wants. A total committment to Him and His way, and an ignoring of our senses and experiences.

wearing out will be referred to several times- Compared to God, all our issues are trivial. Fear or respect the Lord, listen to Jesus, walk in a dark world by His light.

Now man lighting his fire, and walking in his own light- ends in torment.

Chapter 51

verse 1 - if we pursue righteousness and seek God we can hear Him. In Isaiah's day he spoke through Isaiah, but He will make it clear for us.

Abraham was one person when God promised him descendants as many as the stars in the sky.

The waste places of Zion will become lush- mentioned before - mentioned again - mentioned often so we can get it.

Verse 4 the given Law is light- it illuminates our true condition. Verse 6 earth wearing out - its not timeless either, only God is. Seems to point to tribulation.

Verse 7 the law written on the hearts of those who know righteousness- we don't need to fear man. Who will wear out. God for all generations, salvation for all people, for all generations.

verse 9 a little history lesson (Rahab is Egypt) - cut up - judgement. Dried up the sea, to let the ransomed out. Ransomed return from heaven in similar fashion, gladness and joy chases away sorrow and sighing.

God is in control, and yet we focus on men- that are like grass. We see the immediate threat, we have fear- we don't rely on God. In this example the oppression in Babylon is the fear, going hungry, BUT GOD said it would not happen. He puts His words in our mouths and covers us with His shadow.

Now the city of Jerusalem - drinking the cup of God's anger, it became deserted and destroyed. Verse 21 and on Hear from the Lord He has taken the cup of anger and Jerusalem will never see it again. Spoken, and yet our fearfullness abounds- we don't generally consider Jerusalem a safe place, and in the last days it will be surrounded by enemies- But God. The Romans destroyed the temple after Jesus death and resurrection, but the city was still populated or occupied.

The tormentors get the cup of God's anger. Those who want to walk over His chosen - interesting the image is of those lying on their stomach - prostrate before their enemies- then Chapter 52.

Chapter 52

Prostrate Zion- prostrate before enemies, God says awake, those enemies won't come in (glorified- New Jerusalem -post millenial reign). Shake yourself from the dust (the other dust) and rise up no longer a captive - captive to what? fears? oppression by men? enslaved to sin?

The Lord is our redeemer, oppressed by Assyrians without cause. Note here - the Assyrian threat was more in Isaiah's day, Babylon came later. Very subtley we have had scripture talk about leaving Babylon- joyous- its all out in the future. God sees injustices of one man to another - others to the nation of Israel. Those that blaspheme Him. Yet His people know His name and He will call out- again we don't have to find Him - He searches us out, He warns us, He will establish peace. He reigns.

verse 8 the watchmen- those looking for God will see Him acting, or about to act. Restoring- carrying out His plan.

Verse 10 All the ends of the earth will see the salvation of God. Matthew 28:18- church is sent out to tell, this scripture, the world sees Him - nice closure I think.

Verse 12 the Lord goes before us- preparing the way, leading us, and He is also our rear guard. We are completely protected

Verse 13 - Jesus marred but will prosper

Notes discussed 0924 We had excellent discussion- thanks be to God.

Ch 46 Fall of Babylon

Bel and Nebo- the gods of Babylon have bowed to the God of heaven. It continues what happened way back in Ch 13 and 14. This nation's idols could not rescue, and were actually a burden, a load for a weary beast. God's plan happened, what He foretold is truth. Bel and Nebo the idols were carried off as spoil.

He hasn't changed since He predicted it, He never changes, even if its generations for us humans. He has no equal, there is no fair comparison of God to ???? anything or anyone. Doing so in any way would not be a fair representation of Him- I think this explains the first three commandments (Deut 5:7-9). There is no comparison and yet we realize (most of us) the intelligent design and planning of our fragile world. So we will tend to have gods, and He wants to make it clear that we cannot fully understand His magnificence.

Our idols can't be compared to Him, nor can they deliver- only He can. He has been in control in the past and controls both the present and future- accomplishing what He has said He would. Doing His pleasure.

If He spoke it, it will come to pass - a sure thing.

He loves us too and is patient with our stubbornness. The theme of Psalm 39 is an appeal for God's mercy because life is so brief. We are but a breath, and yet he is patient- teaching us- our entire lifetime of growing in Him. Our life on earth seems long to us, but is only a moment for Him.

Ch 47 Fall of Babylon

Babylon is to be reduced to dust - aren't we buckets of dust?

Grind with a millstone, no longer called tender and delicate- God's patience has come to an end. Bad times will come to them first, God gave them status in the world and took it back based on their reaction to Him. He may have removed it anyway, and not as a result of their actions- God talks about restoring Israel from exile many times in the Bible. Of course the Babylonians having realized that may have chosen to free them.

Israel was given to Babylonia based on Israel's disobedience. God is about punishment and mercy, Babylon took the road of pride, and showed no mercy. satan has pride so Babylon followed its god.

Verse 8 example of pride - said "I am" - thats how God identifies Himself, the future was stated - personal plans were made without consulting God - this isn't a good idea, we should consult Him in all things. Who is in control, Who kept an overwhelming army out of Jerusalem? We can sometimes expect that we are, and act as though we are in control but we are NOT.

Wisdom and knowledge have deluded. If it happened in Babylon is it happening today as the rate of discovery is at an all time high.

Disaster comes that has no answer- economic crisis - unlike any other, different from depression, the recession of the late 70s. Sudden destruction - remember these people aren't trying to be obedient to God, they are not seeking Him. He said earlier in His word that we can know what is going to happen.

Babylon stood fast on their spells, their answers to these sudden crises. That they have learned from youth. Look to those that prophesy based on the stars (Incas or Aztecs) where are they? The heavens declare, but without God - wrong conclusions can be arrived at.

Many counselors are wearisome - maybe they are all saying different things. Contrast with Proverbs 11:14 abundance of counselors assure victory. Again I think a difference in the type of counselors ( those that seek God, and those who rely on their learning and experience). Man's answers futile once God decides to act -we must be in tune with Him.

Ch 48 Fall of Babylon

Now the example of Israel a nation that swears by God but not in truth or righteousness. People do that - we all have sides we hide, we put on our best face. Not that we should tell all our secrets, but we should and can discuss them with God, He knows about them anyway. We claim we are Christians but there may be areas when we are decidedly not Christ like Yet He works with us and has the patience necessary.

God proclaimed- then suddenly it happened, He acted and it came to pass. He forewarned - by generations in some cases so we would know about it and not falsely give credit to an idol. He also does things we don't expect, so we can't say we knew. The unexpected I think explains some of the unpredictability in our lives. We have a reasonable expectation of what might happen tomorrow, but we don't know it for sure.

He refines us stubborn people through His patience, He allows affliction to test us, and to test our responses- do we run to Him or an idol? God restates His timelessness- being here first, and will be here last.

Now specifically about Cyrus (but not named?) Cyrus certainly overthrew the Babylonian empire, but in the last days isn't the word system compared to Babylon. He spoke this in public, not secret.

48:17 He leads us in the way we should go and teaches us. We miss out on what He has for us when we disobey ( not listen). Babylon is to be left with shouting, at the time Isaiah wrote this - The Babylonian empire was just on the rise. He redeemed Israel - let them fall and then got them back, He is taking care of them. The desert experience seemed impossible from our standards but God provided. Do we have the fear He can't take care of us if we become "sold out" for Him?

Finally "no peace for the wicked" - are you at peace? are you wicked?

The further I study the Bible the more I realize just how fallen the world is and just how gracious God is (thankfully).