Leadership and being an effective leader has been a recent issue that has come up in my life on several fronts. The first front is meeting a new person who is in leadership training of sorts, at least its a topic he is taking a class in. Another front is watching the leadership of my place of work, and some of their actions. Finally there is my leadership, since I am in a position of that kind of sorts. I almost forgot - our national leadership.
This has led me to think of the guidelines in Timothy and Titus (Bible) for leaders. Also of the passage in Isaiah about they will be led by children. If the proper credentials (Bible ones) of a leader are not there then it will be just like being led by a child. There is also Jesus example of leadership- being a servant to those under you. That is rarely seen today. I'm also reading in Jeremiah, and those times prior to Babylonian overthrow of Judah are much like the times we live in today.
I'm teaching a math class this summer and I was thinking about the need to pray for my students. Some come in and try to do the minimum to get by, others have family and personal life issues that are not conducive to being successful in class. Its a wide range and throw in the fact that they need different amounts of help. Some younger students have only forgotten the concepts, and pick back up on them quickly. Other students have never seen the concepts and it takes them longer to grasp and apply them.
One of my strategies I am planning to use is to post a math problem every day, or have a quiz every day, to make that their HW grade. God has recently led me to the knowledge to be able to do that, I just hope I will follow through effectively.
I got thinking about infinity. I thought God is infinity in math terms. We can catch a glimpse, but can never fully understand or comprehend. Then I thought about ways to define infinity, and one of my favorite ways to consider it is 1/0. Technically and this is taught by math instructors the world over "division by zero is undefined", "not allowed", I don't know what you have heard. It is precisely true - we cannot define God, so I like it.
God is the "one", He can be more than that but He says "I am", He exists. We (all humans everywhere are the zero. Without God we are but a bucket of dust (just add water). When we place God over us (1/0 -His rightful position) then infinity is possible, anything and all things are possible. When we try and put ourselves over God (0/1) we have exactly zero or nothing, as any math person will tell you.
The neat thing is that God truly is everywhere in our lives. We try an compartmentalize our spiritual life and keep it separate from our secular life, but we cannot. He brought this to my attention today, and I'm so grateful for it.
The other thing that came to mind is our need to find truth. I'm starting Jeremiah 9 and its about how we as people tell lies. We do it so often and so well we lose sight of the truth. We must go to God to find truth and no other. Why no other? Because the truth is another person may really be convincing, but a liar just the same. Parents can lie to you (most don't have that intention, but it is possible), grandparents, good friends, etc. The only Persons you can trust is the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). The only thing we can truly trust is our time spent with God and what He tells us.
Another thought I've been contemplating is this: if you are dis-satisfied with another person (spouse, mom, dad, child, co-worker) and you complain about this person, are you not acting out of selfishness and pride? The reason I say this is because God has been merciful to us, each of us has broken the 10 commandments (probably several- maybe close to all), so we deserve a life of misery. Justice would dictate we deserve punishment, yet God is merciful and places good things in out lives. Your spouse, child, parents, may not be perfect and probably are far from it, but they have occasionally done nice things for you in all likelihood. Considering what you a sinner deserves, there has been blessing in your life and yet since those people aren't perfect you focus on the times they let you down, so I ask my question again - are you being selfish and prideful? Are you dis-satisfied with the blessings God has given you because it isn't enough (as many or the kind you want)?
Saturday, May 23, 2009
Monday, May 18, 2009
Between Isaiah and Jeremiah and before our Wednesday night activities ended for the summer, our group studied Collosians. In looking in my New testament notes, I noticed that I hadn't made notes on Collosians, So I took it as God's perfect timing.
I've been delayed in posting these notes due to the end of the semester seriousness at work. I'm getting around to it though.
The youth showed a movie, and we had praise and worship that prevented our group from meeting for Jeremiah.
All in all - just busy.
Col 1
Its interesting that although Paul didn't start this church, or ever meet them, he took their profession of faith as being legitimate. He prayed for these people that their walk with God would be wonderful. What a wonderful example of un-selfishness, and un-selfcenteredness. Praying for those you don't personally know and wanting the very best for them. Its also an example of realizing He did not know the hearts of these people, but that God did. Do we really know anyone's heart- only God does.
Now an incomparable Christ, these folks had had some influences that had caused Jesus to be on the same level of comparison to other influential people. Paul is telling them that Jesus is God and He is above others to such an extent that comparison takes away from God, and adds to the stature of those compared to God. They were not placing an emphasis on God, He may have been a part of their lives, but He was not the focus. Do we do that today?
God through Jesus created everything, and then He Himself poured Himself into flesh to dwell among men, and gain their redemption.
We formerly are ignorant of God and consequently do our own things. Once we realize our nature we must cling to Him. Paul rejoices in his sufferings for another's sake. This sounds to me like a sacrficial suffering, a giving up of something for the good of others. Do we do that? Do we risk our own suffering for the good of others?
We should proclaim Jesus and admonish men to turn to Christ through God's power. Its our great commission, and just like Paul was sent we are sent. Furthermore we don't haveto be the center of the world, but God is. Others are working where we are not.
The mystery spoken of in this chapter that Jesus in us, the hope of glory. God kept it from the saints, and satan thought by killing Jesus (who really gave up His life) he would thwart God's plan.
Col 2
Paul struggled for those he had not met. He is calling for unity- where does unity in a church come from? focusing on Christ- making Him the leader.
Christ is the source of ALL wisdom and knowledge. So things are to be measured against God's word, in this way we can't be deluded. People who hide things and "roll them out" it just isn't scriptural.
He rejoices in the Spirit, and warns about becoming a captive of the traditions of men. Or men's deception and empty philosophy.
Christ alone makes us complete, not our educational level, or our work. Our baptism is our action of acceptance of Christ's work on the cross. Men could torture him, brutalize Him, and nail Him to a cross, but He was still in control. He gave up His spirit. He came back. Men are helpless against the will of God, but we don't like to admit it.
Yet we still listen to men rather than God. We should seek that fellowship with Him in all things. Do we. Certainly we should obey those in authority over us (it is commanded) but God will also (if we let Him and listen for Him) reinforce the things that He wants. Wouldn't it be a joy to have a boss ask you to do something, and at the same time hear God reinforcing that you should indeed do what is asked. I think this is why the apostles asked should they follow God or man? They were pointing out that there should be agreement. If there is not it can be a witnessing opportunity, and definitely a prayer topic.
In 1 Cor 10:13 it speaks of temptations, temptations allow us to get better, they are a test review, allow us to see different variations of God's word and His ways. The comforting part is we won't actually be tempted beyond our ability to handle it for God is watching out for us.
This chapter speaks of focus, we should be Christ focused and not our works, not our suffering (self focused), and certainly not comparing our walk to that of
another.
If Christ asks you to do something will He be with you? -YES
If you are focused on others, are you focused on Christ? - NO
If you are focused on the task at hand, or the fear of an upcoming trial, are
you focused on Christ? -NO
If you are focused on a specific goal personal and not Christ's) are you
focused on Christ? - NO
If you submit to the decrees of others- are you focused on Christ? - NO We
should submit to authority, but in checking with Christ.
If we focus on Christ only then fleshly indulgence be removed. Focus on Him.
Focus on Christ
Col 3
He continues the focus theme, having Paul admonish us to focus on Heaven and His kingdom, On His son Christ. We are to set our minds on the things above - not on earth.
A life hidden with Christ, this means we have given up all of our self focus for and have focused our efforts on doing His work. In glory we will be revealed. A focus on our self leads to fleshly results. The selfishness of the world will be what brings about God's wrath. Debt, spending future earnings for pleasures now is really very selfish.
Selfishness is something we all have exhibited, and we still have to be aware of its effects. Most pronounced is that it takes our focus off of God.
Selfishness brings about anger - you hurt me,
I'm going to get you back - is an exhibition of wrath. Maybe done
malice and slander (gossip). It all stems from a "me" focus and a "me" interest. Don't lie is commanded - If our old self is truly laid aside, why would we need to lie? Or even feel the need to lie?
If we let God renew us- through learning about Him (which takes action and effort on our part), and then we let God lead us. Physical differences between people fade. Race prejudice goes away.
One of the themes that is often brought to my attention is the way people get to where they don't care for each other. lame is often fixed on the other person, "he did this", "she said that" and it reminds me of just how self focused we are. Consider for a moment eternity and spending it with that person you "hate" or "don't care to be around", or "I can't forgive". I'm sure the argument came to your mind that you are "not" the problem, and it is the other person. I'm sure examples came to mind of actions they have done that convince you that their heart is not where it needs to be. Your's however is in the right place - isn't it?
God's prescription: put on a heart of compassion. Now this sounds good but how? Give up self interests and its easy to do. Let the "hurt" go, holding onto it is selfish. Not letting go of self interests make putting on a heart of compassion impossible (at least very hard).
Bear other's burdens - forgiving - who and what you need to let go of in order to give up your self. Once you die to self (ever heard that?) then you can forgive. Love brings about unity.
More on how to give up self- let the word of Christ dwell within you, you have to act (study) to get it there. It gets there through study.
Then once selfishness is rejected and Christ's ways adopted, do everything for the Lord as unto the Lord- What do you get? Why do you care- your selfish ways have been rejected. Back to the person(s) you don't care for, God is a part of the relationship, and if you let Him (by rejecting your selfish wants) he will lead you. He will steer you if you let Him. This is "doing His work", this is hiding yourself in Christ. This is the only way we can be assured we don't do wrong.
Col 4
In a submitted position (we realize we have a Master), and we will grant justice and fairness. We will also constantly be in fellowship with Him (in prayer), and we will exhibit the attitude of thanksgiving. In this submitted position and consequently an attitude of prayer, we will then be in position for God to use us for His glory and act through us. He will put the words in our mouths. This comes from prayer.
If we do all this what happens? We will feel lonely, like we are the only ones. Part of that is our selfishness trying to sneak back in. Part of that is assuming we can know the hearts of other - which we cannot. So how does Paul end the letter? by reminding them that they are not alone in their walk. We not alone either, many people are praying for us, we don't even know who. What parent doesn't pray and want the best for their children? What spouses don't want the best each other? Children even pray for their parents. That is just immediate family. There is then those in your extended family, and those in your church family. You are not alone.
I've been delayed in posting these notes due to the end of the semester seriousness at work. I'm getting around to it though.
The youth showed a movie, and we had praise and worship that prevented our group from meeting for Jeremiah.
All in all - just busy.
Col 1
Its interesting that although Paul didn't start this church, or ever meet them, he took their profession of faith as being legitimate. He prayed for these people that their walk with God would be wonderful. What a wonderful example of un-selfishness, and un-selfcenteredness. Praying for those you don't personally know and wanting the very best for them. Its also an example of realizing He did not know the hearts of these people, but that God did. Do we really know anyone's heart- only God does.
Now an incomparable Christ, these folks had had some influences that had caused Jesus to be on the same level of comparison to other influential people. Paul is telling them that Jesus is God and He is above others to such an extent that comparison takes away from God, and adds to the stature of those compared to God. They were not placing an emphasis on God, He may have been a part of their lives, but He was not the focus. Do we do that today?
God through Jesus created everything, and then He Himself poured Himself into flesh to dwell among men, and gain their redemption.
We formerly are ignorant of God and consequently do our own things. Once we realize our nature we must cling to Him. Paul rejoices in his sufferings for another's sake. This sounds to me like a sacrficial suffering, a giving up of something for the good of others. Do we do that? Do we risk our own suffering for the good of others?
We should proclaim Jesus and admonish men to turn to Christ through God's power. Its our great commission, and just like Paul was sent we are sent. Furthermore we don't haveto be the center of the world, but God is. Others are working where we are not.
The mystery spoken of in this chapter that Jesus in us, the hope of glory. God kept it from the saints, and satan thought by killing Jesus (who really gave up His life) he would thwart God's plan.
Col 2
Paul struggled for those he had not met. He is calling for unity- where does unity in a church come from? focusing on Christ- making Him the leader.
Christ is the source of ALL wisdom and knowledge. So things are to be measured against God's word, in this way we can't be deluded. People who hide things and "roll them out" it just isn't scriptural.
He rejoices in the Spirit, and warns about becoming a captive of the traditions of men. Or men's deception and empty philosophy.
Christ alone makes us complete, not our educational level, or our work. Our baptism is our action of acceptance of Christ's work on the cross. Men could torture him, brutalize Him, and nail Him to a cross, but He was still in control. He gave up His spirit. He came back. Men are helpless against the will of God, but we don't like to admit it.
Yet we still listen to men rather than God. We should seek that fellowship with Him in all things. Do we. Certainly we should obey those in authority over us (it is commanded) but God will also (if we let Him and listen for Him) reinforce the things that He wants. Wouldn't it be a joy to have a boss ask you to do something, and at the same time hear God reinforcing that you should indeed do what is asked. I think this is why the apostles asked should they follow God or man? They were pointing out that there should be agreement. If there is not it can be a witnessing opportunity, and definitely a prayer topic.
In 1 Cor 10:13 it speaks of temptations, temptations allow us to get better, they are a test review, allow us to see different variations of God's word and His ways. The comforting part is we won't actually be tempted beyond our ability to handle it for God is watching out for us.
This chapter speaks of focus, we should be Christ focused and not our works, not our suffering (self focused), and certainly not comparing our walk to that of
another.
If Christ asks you to do something will He be with you? -YES
If you are focused on others, are you focused on Christ? - NO
If you are focused on the task at hand, or the fear of an upcoming trial, are
you focused on Christ? -NO
If you are focused on a specific goal personal and not Christ's) are you
focused on Christ? - NO
If you submit to the decrees of others- are you focused on Christ? - NO We
should submit to authority, but in checking with Christ.
If we focus on Christ only then fleshly indulgence be removed. Focus on Him.
Focus on Christ
Col 3
He continues the focus theme, having Paul admonish us to focus on Heaven and His kingdom, On His son Christ. We are to set our minds on the things above - not on earth.
A life hidden with Christ, this means we have given up all of our self focus for and have focused our efforts on doing His work. In glory we will be revealed. A focus on our self leads to fleshly results. The selfishness of the world will be what brings about God's wrath. Debt, spending future earnings for pleasures now is really very selfish.
Selfishness is something we all have exhibited, and we still have to be aware of its effects. Most pronounced is that it takes our focus off of God.
Selfishness brings about anger - you hurt me,
I'm going to get you back - is an exhibition of wrath. Maybe done
malice and slander (gossip). It all stems from a "me" focus and a "me" interest. Don't lie is commanded - If our old self is truly laid aside, why would we need to lie? Or even feel the need to lie?
If we let God renew us- through learning about Him (which takes action and effort on our part), and then we let God lead us. Physical differences between people fade. Race prejudice goes away.
One of the themes that is often brought to my attention is the way people get to where they don't care for each other. lame is often fixed on the other person, "he did this", "she said that" and it reminds me of just how self focused we are. Consider for a moment eternity and spending it with that person you "hate" or "don't care to be around", or "I can't forgive". I'm sure the argument came to your mind that you are "not" the problem, and it is the other person. I'm sure examples came to mind of actions they have done that convince you that their heart is not where it needs to be. Your's however is in the right place - isn't it?
God's prescription: put on a heart of compassion. Now this sounds good but how? Give up self interests and its easy to do. Let the "hurt" go, holding onto it is selfish. Not letting go of self interests make putting on a heart of compassion impossible (at least very hard).
Bear other's burdens - forgiving - who and what you need to let go of in order to give up your self. Once you die to self (ever heard that?) then you can forgive. Love brings about unity.
More on how to give up self- let the word of Christ dwell within you, you have to act (study) to get it there. It gets there through study.
Then once selfishness is rejected and Christ's ways adopted, do everything for the Lord as unto the Lord- What do you get? Why do you care- your selfish ways have been rejected. Back to the person(s) you don't care for, God is a part of the relationship, and if you let Him (by rejecting your selfish wants) he will lead you. He will steer you if you let Him. This is "doing His work", this is hiding yourself in Christ. This is the only way we can be assured we don't do wrong.
Col 4
In a submitted position (we realize we have a Master), and we will grant justice and fairness. We will also constantly be in fellowship with Him (in prayer), and we will exhibit the attitude of thanksgiving. In this submitted position and consequently an attitude of prayer, we will then be in position for God to use us for His glory and act through us. He will put the words in our mouths. This comes from prayer.
If we do all this what happens? We will feel lonely, like we are the only ones. Part of that is our selfishness trying to sneak back in. Part of that is assuming we can know the hearts of other - which we cannot. So how does Paul end the letter? by reminding them that they are not alone in their walk. We not alone either, many people are praying for us, we don't even know who. What parent doesn't pray and want the best for their children? What spouses don't want the best each other? Children even pray for their parents. That is just immediate family. There is then those in your extended family, and those in your church family. You are not alone.
Thursday, April 30, 2009
The start of Jeremiah and thoughts going into it.
After doing a study of the book of Isaiah I felt strongly led to continue. Our
Sunday night Bible study seemed the place to continue. In thinking about it a
very strong truth came to mind: We have two choices, we can (1) wait for God's
direction, and fit (Him) in our busy lives or (2) we can read and study the
Bible and listen to His voice and fit ourselves into His plans. There is merit
in waiting on God, the Bible says those that do will mount up with wings like
eagles. It also says those that seek God will find Him. Its a good thing to
fill your life and time with the things of God.
I started reading Jeremiah and in the light of tough economic times and Israel's
rebirth approaching 70 years, one particular section stuck out. I didn't
initially write it down but that just made my re-reading more careful as I
searched to confirm I did actually see it. Its the section where God tells
Jeremiah not to pray for the people of Judah anymore, He has set judgement in
motion and is not going to listen. In light of the other things in Jeremiah,
God's example of His longsuffering and His desire that people come back to Him
make our efforts seem trivial.
I wondered if one of the signs of end times would be that God tells His people
a similar message. There is a lot of symmetry in the Bible with similar
circumstances often repeating. I personally have a burden for the lost, I would
not want any to suffer or be separated from God. I also know God will give them
additional chances, and He will bring each individual to a point of decision.
He is ready even in the trib period to reach out to those that call to Him.
What an awesome God.
In worldly terms Jeremiah was a failure. He preached a long time to a people
that did not want to hear his message, did not turn from their ways, and he
watched first hand the death of his nation. His burden for his people often led
him to tears. Much like the tears of a parent when a child chooses something
that the parent knows will cause him/her hardship and anguish.
In heavenly terms he stayed faithful to God, and spoke what he he was given to
speak. Jeremiah realized who God is and he realized that His ways are the best
and really the ONLY ways to consider. Even in the midst of decline and the
destruction around him.
God is the only answer worth pursuing.
Chapter 1
God knew Jeremiah before he was born, before he was conceived, and yes all the
way back to when the world was formed. He had a plan for Jeremiah's life. He
has a plan for your life- from way back then. All we have to do is submit to
His ways.
God told Jeremiah His plan for him. Why? because Jeremiah sought God, and
wasn't selfish enough to try and use that information for worldy advantage. He
was submitted to God's authority.
How did he react when told? Jeremiah lacked the confidence that he could do
what God asked him. How many of us go to job interviews with all our weaknesses
hidden and brimming with confidence. Its funny my life experience has taught me
that the people who are most confident they can do a job are often the ones that
perform the poorest. Over and over again I've seen it. We've all given the
"know it alls" plenty of room so when they fall on their face we won't be their
cushion. I got to be careful here, I also believe that we should be praying for
the enlightenment of the "know it alls", and be there to help them up.
Jeremiah wasn't the driven individual, the corporate ladder climber, he rather
placed his focus on God and look what happened.
God went on to tell Jeremiah that He would be with him whereever he went, and
that he would see some fearful circumstances, but not to be afraid.
God placed His Word in Jeremiah's mouth. He has blessed us in the US by putting
His Word (Bible) in our hands. He also said every word He gave Jeremiah would
come true, and for us that means He said His Word (Bible) would come true.
What an awesome God.
God helped Jeremiah to see His ways. He showed Jeremiah things and made sure
the signs were interpreted correctly. He coached Jeremiah, He wants the same
type of relationship with you. What did Jeremiah have to do? He had to pay
attention and let God do the work. He had to submit to God's ways, ask Him in,
then let Him prepare Jeremiah for the purpose He had in mind.
He wants to do the same for us.
After doing a study of the book of Isaiah I felt strongly led to continue. Our
Sunday night Bible study seemed the place to continue. In thinking about it a
very strong truth came to mind: We have two choices, we can (1) wait for God's
direction, and fit (Him) in our busy lives or (2) we can read and study the
Bible and listen to His voice and fit ourselves into His plans. There is merit
in waiting on God, the Bible says those that do will mount up with wings like
eagles. It also says those that seek God will find Him. Its a good thing to
fill your life and time with the things of God.
I started reading Jeremiah and in the light of tough economic times and Israel's
rebirth approaching 70 years, one particular section stuck out. I didn't
initially write it down but that just made my re-reading more careful as I
searched to confirm I did actually see it. Its the section where God tells
Jeremiah not to pray for the people of Judah anymore, He has set judgement in
motion and is not going to listen. In light of the other things in Jeremiah,
God's example of His longsuffering and His desire that people come back to Him
make our efforts seem trivial.
I wondered if one of the signs of end times would be that God tells His people
a similar message. There is a lot of symmetry in the Bible with similar
circumstances often repeating. I personally have a burden for the lost, I would
not want any to suffer or be separated from God. I also know God will give them
additional chances, and He will bring each individual to a point of decision.
He is ready even in the trib period to reach out to those that call to Him.
What an awesome God.
In worldly terms Jeremiah was a failure. He preached a long time to a people
that did not want to hear his message, did not turn from their ways, and he
watched first hand the death of his nation. His burden for his people often led
him to tears. Much like the tears of a parent when a child chooses something
that the parent knows will cause him/her hardship and anguish.
In heavenly terms he stayed faithful to God, and spoke what he he was given to
speak. Jeremiah realized who God is and he realized that His ways are the best
and really the ONLY ways to consider. Even in the midst of decline and the
destruction around him.
God is the only answer worth pursuing.
Chapter 1
God knew Jeremiah before he was born, before he was conceived, and yes all the
way back to when the world was formed. He had a plan for Jeremiah's life. He
has a plan for your life- from way back then. All we have to do is submit to
His ways.
God told Jeremiah His plan for him. Why? because Jeremiah sought God, and
wasn't selfish enough to try and use that information for worldy advantage. He
was submitted to God's authority.
How did he react when told? Jeremiah lacked the confidence that he could do
what God asked him. How many of us go to job interviews with all our weaknesses
hidden and brimming with confidence. Its funny my life experience has taught me
that the people who are most confident they can do a job are often the ones that
perform the poorest. Over and over again I've seen it. We've all given the
"know it alls" plenty of room so when they fall on their face we won't be their
cushion. I got to be careful here, I also believe that we should be praying for
the enlightenment of the "know it alls", and be there to help them up.
Jeremiah wasn't the driven individual, the corporate ladder climber, he rather
placed his focus on God and look what happened.
God went on to tell Jeremiah that He would be with him whereever he went, and
that he would see some fearful circumstances, but not to be afraid.
God placed His Word in Jeremiah's mouth. He has blessed us in the US by putting
His Word (Bible) in our hands. He also said every word He gave Jeremiah would
come true, and for us that means He said His Word (Bible) would come true.
What an awesome God.
God helped Jeremiah to see His ways. He showed Jeremiah things and made sure
the signs were interpreted correctly. He coached Jeremiah, He wants the same
type of relationship with you. What did Jeremiah have to do? He had to pay
attention and let God do the work. He had to submit to God's ways, ask Him in,
then let Him prepare Jeremiah for the purpose He had in mind.
He wants to do the same for us.
Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Notes discussed that finish Isaiah on 09318.
Ch 65 New heavens and new earth
Glory to God, some people find Him without looking for Him (Israel). He chose
Israel not the other way around. They can seek Him without asking and will
find Him without looking. He says to them "here am I", He is reaching out to
those that don't want relationship and tried to ignore Him.
He has reached out to a rebellious people, people who walk following their own
thoughts (turning their backs to Him-going their own way) rather than His
which is not good.
Still reaching even though their rebellion provokes Him, they offer sacrifices
to other gods- make up religions (potluck- Message). Like a spouse committing
adultery this people put something other than God first. They spend the night in tombs- worshipping the dead and seeking answers from them. Is relying on "tried and true" similar, rather than checking with God?
They eat forbidden foods, and unclean meat, try to hide from Him. All the
things He has said are not in their best interest and yet they do it. Like
children who test the rules.
Deny fellowship with each other- make a hierarchy - one person thinks they are
better than another. Not good not God's way
These things reach God's nostrils- He can smell them, it makes Him gag
He seemingly keeps silent, He seemingly accepts, but our sins are written
before Him and he is warning He will repay. Our sin and iniquity of not
following God's direction will manifest itself within our being. It will cause
us health and other problems, and yet we don't realize this and reject our own
ways. It is also generational, our disobedience shows up in our children, they
follow our examples. Even though God is willing to forgive us, sometimes the
consequences of our former sins have to be dealt with.
vs 7 - so none of us is good enough, and God will repay, which sounds hopeless.
Vs 8 yet God will have clusters of followers, no matter how bad it gets, and He
will act on their behalf. He will protect the faithful. Israel will have
peace He will establish it. Even Achor- he was destroyed for holding back
goods set aside for the Lord (Israel was commanded to stone him and his family)
(Joshua 7:16-26). Those that seek Him He will let find and then He will
protect.
Those that forsake God, and forget Him. Ususally to go after fortune (money- a
god a lot of people follow), and destiny -(luck) doing what they want. He will
destine them to the sword, but He reminds He did call to them, He did speak to
them and they chose not to listen, choosing rather to do things He does not
want.
Vs 13- He takes care of His servants- those submitted to Him anchoose Him.
Blessings will be recognized as coming from God. While others will suffer for
their choices. Its interesting that we recognize the importance of "choice" in
many areas- schools, neighborhoods, cars, but yet in others we deny choice -
serving God. People who don't choose God who has called to them will die. God
will hide former things from His sight- He will forget.
New heavens and new earth created- former things forgotten. People will
rejoice in His creation (we can do that already) as they should. Jerusalem for
rejoicing and the people of Jerusalem for gladness.
No more weeping or crying
long life a norm (brought back)
not overtaken - peace and stability
God will be there- personally having relationship with us
No evil or harm.
A wonderful picture of heaven (new earth and new heavens) Isaiah 65:17-25 -
fellowship with God- His presence, like the garden of Eden.
Ch 66
vs 1 we often look to our external works or accomplishments as a reason to for
God to love us. He is saying- as big as we can imagine, He is bigger still.
Also our accomplishments come from His creation - He made the parts and gave us
the wisdom to assemble it. Not only that He already owns what we think we
"give" Him materially.
Its our internal condition that gets His attention- humble and contrite of
spirit, trembling at His word. This is what He seeks.
Hypocrisy (vs 3) people choose their ways and not God's. Killing an ox like
killing a person. Sacrificing a lamb like breaking a dog's neck. I think the
point here is motives and choices. We choose to do things we think God should
"accept" rather than ask God what he wants and obey. We often think we are so
smart, and we delight in it.
Yet it will lead to punishment, He will expose our nonsense. (Prov 10:24)
What the wicked fear they will face, what the righteous desire He will give
them. He desires to be involved, and not letting Him be fully involved makes
us wicked. He also knows our fears, and our fear should be of Him.
He calls, He speaks - we ignore rejecting Him and choosing to do our own thing.
Things that are not good for us.
We should respect His word and believe it and listen to what He tells us
through it. Then obey, even though it will in all likelihood cause family
problems. We are putting God first and rightly so. Our families will taunt us
when we choose God. Message question - they will ask if God is so good , why
aren't we happy?
Answer?
They ask not because they want to know, but rather to justify their choices
(the ones not of God).
Why do some Christians not seem happy, is it a burden for the lost, Jesus
expressed anguish over Jerusalem.
Vs 7-9 a reference to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel prior to
the time of Jacob's trouble. The 7 years of trib. It did happen in one day
too. Another reference to pregnancy and the certainty of a future event.
The (new?) Jerusalem is a joyous place, God will make Jerusalem's light shine.
Nations will give their glory to it at His word. Some had shed tears over it -
I believe Jesus was one of them. New Christians can learn there and be fed.
It will become apparent the Lord is acting and we will have great boldness-
those of us that are His. The Lord comes in fire with chariots like whirlwind
- the way Elijah was taken. He will slay many- He knows their hearts, and many
will come to an end altogether.
The hand of the Lord will be known to His servants- His actions will be clear.
The Lord will also be indignant with His enemies.
All nations and tongues will see His glory, He'll send missionaries to all
nations, and the Jews will come back to Israel from all nations (they will be
sent back). They will be presented like an offering.
All mankind will bow to Him and worship Him.
They will also see those that did their own thing (rebelled) - and the result
of it.
Amen
Ch 65 New heavens and new earth
Glory to God, some people find Him without looking for Him (Israel). He chose
Israel not the other way around. They can seek Him without asking and will
find Him without looking. He says to them "here am I", He is reaching out to
those that don't want relationship and tried to ignore Him.
He has reached out to a rebellious people, people who walk following their own
thoughts (turning their backs to Him-going their own way) rather than His
which is not good.
Still reaching even though their rebellion provokes Him, they offer sacrifices
to other gods- make up religions (potluck- Message). Like a spouse committing
adultery this people put something other than God first. They spend the night in tombs- worshipping the dead and seeking answers from them. Is relying on "tried and true" similar, rather than checking with God?
They eat forbidden foods, and unclean meat, try to hide from Him. All the
things He has said are not in their best interest and yet they do it. Like
children who test the rules.
Deny fellowship with each other- make a hierarchy - one person thinks they are
better than another. Not good not God's way
These things reach God's nostrils- He can smell them, it makes Him gag
He seemingly keeps silent, He seemingly accepts, but our sins are written
before Him and he is warning He will repay. Our sin and iniquity of not
following God's direction will manifest itself within our being. It will cause
us health and other problems, and yet we don't realize this and reject our own
ways. It is also generational, our disobedience shows up in our children, they
follow our examples. Even though God is willing to forgive us, sometimes the
consequences of our former sins have to be dealt with.
vs 7 - so none of us is good enough, and God will repay, which sounds hopeless.
Vs 8 yet God will have clusters of followers, no matter how bad it gets, and He
will act on their behalf. He will protect the faithful. Israel will have
peace He will establish it. Even Achor- he was destroyed for holding back
goods set aside for the Lord (Israel was commanded to stone him and his family)
(Joshua 7:16-26). Those that seek Him He will let find and then He will
protect.
Those that forsake God, and forget Him. Ususally to go after fortune (money- a
god a lot of people follow), and destiny -(luck) doing what they want. He will
destine them to the sword, but He reminds He did call to them, He did speak to
them and they chose not to listen, choosing rather to do things He does not
want.
Vs 13- He takes care of His servants- those submitted to Him anchoose Him.
Blessings will be recognized as coming from God. While others will suffer for
their choices. Its interesting that we recognize the importance of "choice" in
many areas- schools, neighborhoods, cars, but yet in others we deny choice -
serving God. People who don't choose God who has called to them will die. God
will hide former things from His sight- He will forget.
New heavens and new earth created- former things forgotten. People will
rejoice in His creation (we can do that already) as they should. Jerusalem for
rejoicing and the people of Jerusalem for gladness.
No more weeping or crying
long life a norm (brought back)
not overtaken - peace and stability
God will be there- personally having relationship with us
No evil or harm.
A wonderful picture of heaven (new earth and new heavens) Isaiah 65:17-25 -
fellowship with God- His presence, like the garden of Eden.
Ch 66
vs 1 we often look to our external works or accomplishments as a reason to for
God to love us. He is saying- as big as we can imagine, He is bigger still.
Also our accomplishments come from His creation - He made the parts and gave us
the wisdom to assemble it. Not only that He already owns what we think we
"give" Him materially.
Its our internal condition that gets His attention- humble and contrite of
spirit, trembling at His word. This is what He seeks.
Hypocrisy (vs 3) people choose their ways and not God's. Killing an ox like
killing a person. Sacrificing a lamb like breaking a dog's neck. I think the
point here is motives and choices. We choose to do things we think God should
"accept" rather than ask God what he wants and obey. We often think we are so
smart, and we delight in it.
Yet it will lead to punishment, He will expose our nonsense. (Prov 10:24)
What the wicked fear they will face, what the righteous desire He will give
them. He desires to be involved, and not letting Him be fully involved makes
us wicked. He also knows our fears, and our fear should be of Him.
He calls, He speaks - we ignore rejecting Him and choosing to do our own thing.
Things that are not good for us.
We should respect His word and believe it and listen to what He tells us
through it. Then obey, even though it will in all likelihood cause family
problems. We are putting God first and rightly so. Our families will taunt us
when we choose God. Message question - they will ask if God is so good , why
aren't we happy?
Answer?
They ask not because they want to know, but rather to justify their choices
(the ones not of God).
Why do some Christians not seem happy, is it a burden for the lost, Jesus
expressed anguish over Jerusalem.
Vs 7-9 a reference to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel prior to
the time of Jacob's trouble. The 7 years of trib. It did happen in one day
too. Another reference to pregnancy and the certainty of a future event.
The (new?) Jerusalem is a joyous place, God will make Jerusalem's light shine.
Nations will give their glory to it at His word. Some had shed tears over it -
I believe Jesus was one of them. New Christians can learn there and be fed.
It will become apparent the Lord is acting and we will have great boldness-
those of us that are His. The Lord comes in fire with chariots like whirlwind
- the way Elijah was taken. He will slay many- He knows their hearts, and many
will come to an end altogether.
The hand of the Lord will be known to His servants- His actions will be clear.
The Lord will also be indignant with His enemies.
All nations and tongues will see His glory, He'll send missionaries to all
nations, and the Jews will come back to Israel from all nations (they will be
sent back). They will be presented like an offering.
All mankind will bow to Him and worship Him.
They will also see those that did their own thing (rebelled) - and the result
of it.
Amen
Saturday, March 14, 2009
Notes discussed 09311
Blessings also from God- better than we expect. Peace and righteousness, no violence (with His help) I think we will get it. No devestation or destruction. The Lord will be our light. God will be our glory- He will give us some of His, peace and possesion of the land us, the work of His hands. Everybody will be important.
Can we have these blessings now? I believe we can, He will set up His kingdom and it will be worldwide, but as we follow Him and submit to Him I believe we will be blessed. Doesn't mean we won't have issues and trials, but the very presence of God in our lives will make them feel insignificant.
God will hasten the happening of this when it is His time. Praise God it will happen though. Smallest becoming a clan and the least a mighty nation. There are no prerequisites in God's world, all He wants is a freely submitted heart and mind to His will.
Ch 61
The versus Jesus read to start His ministry.
Bring good news- Gospel message to the afflicted, bind up the broken hearted, proclaim liberty to the captives, and freedom to prisoners. To proclaim a favorable year of the Lord. Luke 4:18-19.
Next line not read by Jesus "and the day of vengeance of our God- This is picked up in Isaiah 63:4- clearly shown in Isaiah before Jesus. If He had said that would the trib period have happened back then? To comfort those that mourn, and grant those in Zion mourning Garland (beauty) for ashes. I played that song one Sunday AM - Isaiah is oft quoted in song lyrics. Gladness instead of mourning, praise instead of fainting. In a sense when we feel faint - our strength has run out, and God can work. When we mourn we acknowledge our helplessness and He can then help.
The person who feels faint and is ready to give up and that God then works to strengthen for all appearances seem strong and called oaks of righteousness. Our seeming endurance is from the Lord and He should be glorified as the giver of it. Any goodness we do is from Him and us submitting to the direction of His Spirit.
Once God strengthens us then we can rebuild. This chapter specifically refers to Israel, but believers are grafted in. God will act openly and vividly through His chosen once they turn to Him. Turn fully to Him. People that have submitted fully to the Lord that He then works through, will be recognized by others as blessed, and taken care of.
We should not submit to God and let Him work through us for worldly gain, but rather for His gain- we have to be careful of our motives.
The Lord loves justice, and He will give them their due. His people will be recognized. The nation of Israel (and grafted in believers) will be the priests to the rest of the world.
Rejoice in the Lord - He has clothed us with salvation (subtle but a gift, not earned), He wraps us in righteousness, again received from Him. Hints of the armor of God were written God through Isaiah.
Just like dressing up for a wedding, we have to put on the garments God has given us, we have to want them.
The Lord causes rigteousness and praise to spring up. Again by blessing those who honor Him.
Armor of God Eph 6:10-18
14- girded your loins with truth Isa 11:5
breastplate of righteousness Isa 59:17
15- your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace Isa 52:7
shield of faith- not mentioned
17 helmet of salvation Isa 59:17
sword of spirit not mentioned - but Isa 11:4
Ch 62
Isaiah is speaking, He gets it, that it isn't about Him and his gain but about God and that His way is far better than our way.
Isaiah (people submitted to God) will not stay silent for Zion's sake and for that of Jerusalem. He speaks, He guides, we don't listen, and maybe try to hide from. Holding onto our selfishness. Israel His nation will be righteous, and the world will see it.
They will get a new name- generally - which the Lord will call us.
We will be a beauty in the hand of the Lord (not us in our own power but Him shining through our submitted state). He will hold us, but we have to let Him, He calls us we have to answer and submit, and when we do and are firmly held in His hand - and do His bidding it is a glorious thing.
The people not forsaken, land not desolate, but like a marriage we will be joined to God .
Verse 6 and 7 - the scripture to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122:6) Peace in that city for the Jews, peace in the Lord for the church, you who remind the lord take no rest, and give Him no rest until He establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth. Pray for the millenium and the new heavens and earth expect it look for it. Parable of persistent widow Luke 18:1-8. Ten virgins (Matt 25)- five weren't prepared when the Lord came back, they didn't live in an expectant state, and were not prepared when the announcement came.
Verse 8 and 9 - a promised answer
The spoken word setting it in motion, making it happen.
Ch 63 The exiles' prayer
Here is a reference to Christ coming from the land of the enemies of the jew. Edom was against Israel. Red garments- Christ fighting for Israel- alone- He needs no help. In His wrath and anger He punishes- hasn't happened yet but spoken so assured- He needs no help. The call to "kill the infidels" has nothing to do with our God, because He can. He wants us to pray and witness that they may turn and know His peace.
Blood is life (Lev 17:11-14)- His garments will be stained with their life. In Isaiah 61:2 there is a day of vengeance. When Jesus started His ministry He stopped just short of quoting that line. The line after day of vengeance talks about a year of redemption a millenial reign- new heavens and earth. Jesus will pour out their lifeblood, He needs no help.
vs 7 The lovingkindness of the Lord, goodness granted out of His compassion and not of their merit. He states they are His people who will not deal falsely- God said it, one day it will be. He was afflicted with them, He redeemed them, He carried them, but still they rebelled.
He led them but they would not listen, He guided but they ignored, therefore they grieved the Holy Spirit. Therefore He turned and fought against them. Giving a dose of justice when His desire is to give mercy.
This caused the people to remember all the things He had done for them. Parting the Red sea, caring for them daily in the wilderness, They missed God. When He doesn't act in our lives we can miss it. Especially if we have ever experienced His moving in our lives. Most of us can look in our past and see God at work, but now in our present we go off on our own.
They call for the Lord to be apart their lives, then in true human fashion blame Him for hardening their hearts against Him. He gives us a choice there. Vs 17 He does not cause us to stray from His ways, it is our nature to do so. He has allowed it, because He wants us to come to Him fully submitted. This chapter ends by comparing the state of Israel to a people who have never known God. It takes diligence to walk with Him and a concious effort not to revert to how we naturally feel we should do things. That being said His yoke is easy, and He wants to help us. Just like flesh nailed Jesus to a tree, we have to nail our own flesh to a tree- rejecting our way for His. The better way.
Ch 64
Its stated in the Bible that there will be a worldwide earthquake when the Lord returns. In studying Revelation there is a reference, and many in other places. Isaiah is calling for the Lord's return- He gets it, we need Him, He is our only hope. This will be a worldwide event and it will be clear that it is the Lord, even to the unbeliever. He created this world after all, its His, regardless of how much and how many men may deny it.
He will move in ways that aren't predictable, but He does give warnings of His action before hand to those watching for Him. He is God who acts on behalf of those waiting for Him, who acts in the righteousness of God and rejoices that it is the way things should be done. People who study God's ways.
God was angry because of our sin, sin we continued in for a long time. Sin hurts us, its not what is best for us. It grieves God because He wants what is best for us. We all failed Him and our helpless before Him, in other words our deeds are of no count. It is only in a submitted state doing His deeds of God's righteousness that we are of any use, and that is God acting through us. What we think is "our" righteousness is nothing. Our iniquities can gain power over us, He must deliver us. We must recognize that as well. A submitted heart and being helpless, realizing our need for God.
Yet God created us, and we seek His mercy. Our sin causes us great problems, and then we run to God for a quick fix without submitting. God is seemingly silent when we want our way and not His, allowing us to go deeper into tradgedy. Then we want to blame Him for it.
Blessings also from God- better than we expect. Peace and righteousness, no violence (with His help) I think we will get it. No devestation or destruction. The Lord will be our light. God will be our glory- He will give us some of His, peace and possesion of the land us, the work of His hands. Everybody will be important.
Can we have these blessings now? I believe we can, He will set up His kingdom and it will be worldwide, but as we follow Him and submit to Him I believe we will be blessed. Doesn't mean we won't have issues and trials, but the very presence of God in our lives will make them feel insignificant.
God will hasten the happening of this when it is His time. Praise God it will happen though. Smallest becoming a clan and the least a mighty nation. There are no prerequisites in God's world, all He wants is a freely submitted heart and mind to His will.
Ch 61
The versus Jesus read to start His ministry.
Bring good news- Gospel message to the afflicted, bind up the broken hearted, proclaim liberty to the captives, and freedom to prisoners. To proclaim a favorable year of the Lord. Luke 4:18-19.
Next line not read by Jesus "and the day of vengeance of our God- This is picked up in Isaiah 63:4- clearly shown in Isaiah before Jesus. If He had said that would the trib period have happened back then? To comfort those that mourn, and grant those in Zion mourning Garland (beauty) for ashes. I played that song one Sunday AM - Isaiah is oft quoted in song lyrics. Gladness instead of mourning, praise instead of fainting. In a sense when we feel faint - our strength has run out, and God can work. When we mourn we acknowledge our helplessness and He can then help.
The person who feels faint and is ready to give up and that God then works to strengthen for all appearances seem strong and called oaks of righteousness. Our seeming endurance is from the Lord and He should be glorified as the giver of it. Any goodness we do is from Him and us submitting to the direction of His Spirit.
Once God strengthens us then we can rebuild. This chapter specifically refers to Israel, but believers are grafted in. God will act openly and vividly through His chosen once they turn to Him. Turn fully to Him. People that have submitted fully to the Lord that He then works through, will be recognized by others as blessed, and taken care of.
We should not submit to God and let Him work through us for worldly gain, but rather for His gain- we have to be careful of our motives.
The Lord loves justice, and He will give them their due. His people will be recognized. The nation of Israel (and grafted in believers) will be the priests to the rest of the world.
Rejoice in the Lord - He has clothed us with salvation (subtle but a gift, not earned), He wraps us in righteousness, again received from Him. Hints of the armor of God were written God through Isaiah.
Just like dressing up for a wedding, we have to put on the garments God has given us, we have to want them.
The Lord causes rigteousness and praise to spring up. Again by blessing those who honor Him.
Armor of God Eph 6:10-18
14- girded your loins with truth Isa 11:5
breastplate of righteousness Isa 59:17
15- your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace Isa 52:7
shield of faith- not mentioned
17 helmet of salvation Isa 59:17
sword of spirit not mentioned - but Isa 11:4
Ch 62
Isaiah is speaking, He gets it, that it isn't about Him and his gain but about God and that His way is far better than our way.
Isaiah (people submitted to God) will not stay silent for Zion's sake and for that of Jerusalem. He speaks, He guides, we don't listen, and maybe try to hide from. Holding onto our selfishness. Israel His nation will be righteous, and the world will see it.
They will get a new name- generally - which the Lord will call us.
We will be a beauty in the hand of the Lord (not us in our own power but Him shining through our submitted state). He will hold us, but we have to let Him, He calls us we have to answer and submit, and when we do and are firmly held in His hand - and do His bidding it is a glorious thing.
The people not forsaken, land not desolate, but like a marriage we will be joined to God .
Verse 6 and 7 - the scripture to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122:6) Peace in that city for the Jews, peace in the Lord for the church, you who remind the lord take no rest, and give Him no rest until He establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth. Pray for the millenium and the new heavens and earth expect it look for it. Parable of persistent widow Luke 18:1-8. Ten virgins (Matt 25)- five weren't prepared when the Lord came back, they didn't live in an expectant state, and were not prepared when the announcement came.
Verse 8 and 9 - a promised answer
The spoken word setting it in motion, making it happen.
Ch 63 The exiles' prayer
Here is a reference to Christ coming from the land of the enemies of the jew. Edom was against Israel. Red garments- Christ fighting for Israel- alone- He needs no help. In His wrath and anger He punishes- hasn't happened yet but spoken so assured- He needs no help. The call to "kill the infidels" has nothing to do with our God, because He can. He wants us to pray and witness that they may turn and know His peace.
Blood is life (Lev 17:11-14)- His garments will be stained with their life. In Isaiah 61:2 there is a day of vengeance. When Jesus started His ministry He stopped just short of quoting that line. The line after day of vengeance talks about a year of redemption a millenial reign- new heavens and earth. Jesus will pour out their lifeblood, He needs no help.
vs 7 The lovingkindness of the Lord, goodness granted out of His compassion and not of their merit. He states they are His people who will not deal falsely- God said it, one day it will be. He was afflicted with them, He redeemed them, He carried them, but still they rebelled.
He led them but they would not listen, He guided but they ignored, therefore they grieved the Holy Spirit. Therefore He turned and fought against them. Giving a dose of justice when His desire is to give mercy.
This caused the people to remember all the things He had done for them. Parting the Red sea, caring for them daily in the wilderness, They missed God. When He doesn't act in our lives we can miss it. Especially if we have ever experienced His moving in our lives. Most of us can look in our past and see God at work, but now in our present we go off on our own.
They call for the Lord to be apart their lives, then in true human fashion blame Him for hardening their hearts against Him. He gives us a choice there. Vs 17 He does not cause us to stray from His ways, it is our nature to do so. He has allowed it, because He wants us to come to Him fully submitted. This chapter ends by comparing the state of Israel to a people who have never known God. It takes diligence to walk with Him and a concious effort not to revert to how we naturally feel we should do things. That being said His yoke is easy, and He wants to help us. Just like flesh nailed Jesus to a tree, we have to nail our own flesh to a tree- rejecting our way for His. The better way.
Ch 64
Its stated in the Bible that there will be a worldwide earthquake when the Lord returns. In studying Revelation there is a reference, and many in other places. Isaiah is calling for the Lord's return- He gets it, we need Him, He is our only hope. This will be a worldwide event and it will be clear that it is the Lord, even to the unbeliever. He created this world after all, its His, regardless of how much and how many men may deny it.
He will move in ways that aren't predictable, but He does give warnings of His action before hand to those watching for Him. He is God who acts on behalf of those waiting for Him, who acts in the righteousness of God and rejoices that it is the way things should be done. People who study God's ways.
God was angry because of our sin, sin we continued in for a long time. Sin hurts us, its not what is best for us. It grieves God because He wants what is best for us. We all failed Him and our helpless before Him, in other words our deeds are of no count. It is only in a submitted state doing His deeds of God's righteousness that we are of any use, and that is God acting through us. What we think is "our" righteousness is nothing. Our iniquities can gain power over us, He must deliver us. We must recognize that as well. A submitted heart and being helpless, realizing our need for God.
Yet God created us, and we seek His mercy. Our sin causes us great problems, and then we run to God for a quick fix without submitting. God is seemingly silent when we want our way and not His, allowing us to go deeper into tradgedy. Then we want to blame Him for it.
Thursday, March 5, 2009
Notes discussed 0934.
Ch 59 Salvation message- clear
vs1 - we often act as if God is powerless, He is reminding us again that we have the shortcomings in how we see the magnitude of God rather than Him.
Our iniquities separate us from God, not those of our parents or those we sometimes feel justified in blaming for our sins, He hides His face from our sin because He is holy. Our hands are defiled - we act ungodly (set traps for each other), and we speak lies and wickedness.
no one sues righteously- lawsuits, and no one pleads honestly.
We trust confusion, and speak lies (politics)- its our comfort zone. God's truth is something we in our natural body or inclination turn away from. To conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity is to act on our ideas rather than than God's.
v5- We embrace our own dangerous ideas - from that which is crushed a snake breaks forth - law of unforeseen circumstances- its right here in the Bible. Our plans are not well thought out, they meet an immediate need and the details or consequences are never fully considered. Yet God knows the beginning and the end so why don't we trust Him, and take His advice on issues. Is it pride?
v6 our ways our doomed to failure, all ways not from God are doomed to failure, and yet we don't seek Him.
v7 their feet run to anger - we play the blame game, placing blame sooner or later, then watch out- innocent are punished or killed
Our thoughts are thoughts of iniquity- not God's, and anytime our thoughts are not His we are in iniquity. Devestation and destruction result. Peace and justice flee, and we will make our paths crooked. Prov 3:6 - In all your ways acknowledge Him and he will make your paths straight.
Justice becomes far from us and we cry out for it, but its our actions that push it away. Another thing to think about is do we really want justice? If we realize our sin condition, do we really want what we deserve? I would say we want mercy instead- the mercy we don't like to give others. We want a pass for us, but yet hold others accountable In our condition of not seeking God nor acknowledging Him we have created darkness where we want light, we walk in gloom. We end up pushing a chain.
We stumble and grope with no vision, hoping for the justice (without really considering it) that we pushed away. We long for salvation- rescue- it too is far.
Our (not other's) transgressions are multiplied before you, our sins tell on us. V12- we know our iniquities- we realize it, we catch a glimpse of our true condition. Have to realize to repent.
we realize we have denied the Lord, and turned away from Him, we say things that oppress people and are not in agreement with God. Lies come from our heart, and justice is turned back - we are responsible for lack of justice, it is reinforced. Righteousness or right thought stands far away, we get so consumed by our unrighteous thoughts.
Truth is denied, based on our actions, the world we made, or are trying to. It is us that should be blamed and not others.
v15- whoever turns aside from evil becomes prey to those in the condition common to man (the one that is apart from God). Once we get to a condition of suffering, we want others to suffer, and we attack those that turn away. The lost attack those that come to the conclusion that there is a better way, and act to seek it. Man's desire is that we all suffer in misery. At this point we call evil good.
The Lord saw, and is still in control (thankfully). He saw no hope from us and had to act Himself, His own arm brought salvation for us. Christ seated at the right hand of God. Armor of God- yes references more later. He desired to do this (wrapped Himself in zeal as a mantle). Desired for us, to give hopeless us hope through Him. According to deeds or actions He will repay. Wrath to adversaries.
v20 a Redeemer for Zion (and those grafted in), who turn from transgression - the act of repentance- turning from. Acknowledged in v12 and turned from v20. He will covenent with those that turn to Him, placing His spirit on them and His words in their mouth. In Ch 57 after one generation of evil there is wickedness. This wickedness can be overcome by acknowledging our condition, our helplessness, and turning to Him away from it. He will place His word in the mouth of our next generations.
As I was typing this I had the thought that those that grow up in the church are somehow "less" wicked, but the description put forth in this chapter applies to all of us, and when we realize our true condition (wicked and helpless), that leads us to repentance (turning away from it and to Him) then God can work with us. His work is everlasting.
Ch 60 Zion's redeemer
A glorified Zion, the glory of the Lord has risen on Israel. Darkness will cover the earth- spiritual or literal? Nations will come to the light of Israel- the Lord. From the darkness they will seek light, in utter darkness and in realizing this condition we seek light.
They all gather and come to you, sons coming from afar and daughters being carried. Abundance of the sea turned to you, wealth of nations come to you- Israel will have something the rest of the world wants, and they will be willing to give up their money, and make a true sacrifice to get it. Livestock and gold. The world will praise God, His house will be glorified. This worldwide revival will be led by the Father Himself.
They will realize God's mercy, He who struck Israel in His anger but has an anger that doesn't linger and who readily forgets. They will seek that favor. Some won't submit and perish. I think the world has to get to a point where most people realize the fallen condition of man. Persecution of Christians will be the final step, we will be labeled as the Obstacle, we will be used as the excuse for the continuing failure of man's ways.
We then ended with a discussion on forgiveness, as part of love and forgettting wrongs- or not keeping a record of 1Cor13. Its hard for us, especially having the knowledge of good and evil (the tree God did not want us to eat from). We want to hold on, guard against future hurts. I think its about perspective - is there anyone you would not want in heaven? God wants all of His creation to be there. Is there anyone that you would give up heaven if you knew they would be there?
I hope the answer is no to both. Hell is not pleasant, and it isn't a place we should want people to go.
Ch 59 Salvation message- clear
vs1 - we often act as if God is powerless, He is reminding us again that we have the shortcomings in how we see the magnitude of God rather than Him.
Our iniquities separate us from God, not those of our parents or those we sometimes feel justified in blaming for our sins, He hides His face from our sin because He is holy. Our hands are defiled - we act ungodly (set traps for each other), and we speak lies and wickedness.
no one sues righteously- lawsuits, and no one pleads honestly.
We trust confusion, and speak lies (politics)- its our comfort zone. God's truth is something we in our natural body or inclination turn away from. To conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity is to act on our ideas rather than than God's.
v5- We embrace our own dangerous ideas - from that which is crushed a snake breaks forth - law of unforeseen circumstances- its right here in the Bible. Our plans are not well thought out, they meet an immediate need and the details or consequences are never fully considered. Yet God knows the beginning and the end so why don't we trust Him, and take His advice on issues. Is it pride?
v6 our ways our doomed to failure, all ways not from God are doomed to failure, and yet we don't seek Him.
v7 their feet run to anger - we play the blame game, placing blame sooner or later, then watch out- innocent are punished or killed
Our thoughts are thoughts of iniquity- not God's, and anytime our thoughts are not His we are in iniquity. Devestation and destruction result. Peace and justice flee, and we will make our paths crooked. Prov 3:6 - In all your ways acknowledge Him and he will make your paths straight.
Justice becomes far from us and we cry out for it, but its our actions that push it away. Another thing to think about is do we really want justice? If we realize our sin condition, do we really want what we deserve? I would say we want mercy instead- the mercy we don't like to give others. We want a pass for us, but yet hold others accountable In our condition of not seeking God nor acknowledging Him we have created darkness where we want light, we walk in gloom. We end up pushing a chain.
We stumble and grope with no vision, hoping for the justice (without really considering it) that we pushed away. We long for salvation- rescue- it too is far.
Our (not other's) transgressions are multiplied before you, our sins tell on us. V12- we know our iniquities- we realize it, we catch a glimpse of our true condition. Have to realize to repent.
we realize we have denied the Lord, and turned away from Him, we say things that oppress people and are not in agreement with God. Lies come from our heart, and justice is turned back - we are responsible for lack of justice, it is reinforced. Righteousness or right thought stands far away, we get so consumed by our unrighteous thoughts.
Truth is denied, based on our actions, the world we made, or are trying to. It is us that should be blamed and not others.
v15- whoever turns aside from evil becomes prey to those in the condition common to man (the one that is apart from God). Once we get to a condition of suffering, we want others to suffer, and we attack those that turn away. The lost attack those that come to the conclusion that there is a better way, and act to seek it. Man's desire is that we all suffer in misery. At this point we call evil good.
The Lord saw, and is still in control (thankfully). He saw no hope from us and had to act Himself, His own arm brought salvation for us. Christ seated at the right hand of God. Armor of God- yes references more later. He desired to do this (wrapped Himself in zeal as a mantle). Desired for us, to give hopeless us hope through Him. According to deeds or actions He will repay. Wrath to adversaries.
v20 a Redeemer for Zion (and those grafted in), who turn from transgression - the act of repentance- turning from. Acknowledged in v12 and turned from v20. He will covenent with those that turn to Him, placing His spirit on them and His words in their mouth. In Ch 57 after one generation of evil there is wickedness. This wickedness can be overcome by acknowledging our condition, our helplessness, and turning to Him away from it. He will place His word in the mouth of our next generations.
As I was typing this I had the thought that those that grow up in the church are somehow "less" wicked, but the description put forth in this chapter applies to all of us, and when we realize our true condition (wicked and helpless), that leads us to repentance (turning away from it and to Him) then God can work with us. His work is everlasting.
Ch 60 Zion's redeemer
A glorified Zion, the glory of the Lord has risen on Israel. Darkness will cover the earth- spiritual or literal? Nations will come to the light of Israel- the Lord. From the darkness they will seek light, in utter darkness and in realizing this condition we seek light.
They all gather and come to you, sons coming from afar and daughters being carried. Abundance of the sea turned to you, wealth of nations come to you- Israel will have something the rest of the world wants, and they will be willing to give up their money, and make a true sacrifice to get it. Livestock and gold. The world will praise God, His house will be glorified. This worldwide revival will be led by the Father Himself.
They will realize God's mercy, He who struck Israel in His anger but has an anger that doesn't linger and who readily forgets. They will seek that favor. Some won't submit and perish. I think the world has to get to a point where most people realize the fallen condition of man. Persecution of Christians will be the final step, we will be labeled as the Obstacle, we will be used as the excuse for the continuing failure of man's ways.
We then ended with a discussion on forgiveness, as part of love and forgettting wrongs- or not keeping a record of 1Cor13. Its hard for us, especially having the knowledge of good and evil (the tree God did not want us to eat from). We want to hold on, guard against future hurts. I think its about perspective - is there anyone you would not want in heaven? God wants all of His creation to be there. Is there anyone that you would give up heaven if you knew they would be there?
I hope the answer is no to both. Hell is not pleasant, and it isn't a place we should want people to go.
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Notes discussed 09225
Ch 56 Sins of Isaiah's day (56-59)
God's desires- preserve Justice and do righteousness. Both thought and action. His salvation is on the way, His righteousness will be revealed (will we know His thought?). How blessed we will be to understand His thoughts.
Don't profane the Sabbath, and keep from doing evil (actions).
The salvation is for all -available to all - not only Israel but all. In addition to race differences, but also those who cannot have children (eunuchs). The message translation applies this to all with defects of any kind. What a wonderful promise - as individuals - who keep the sabbath, and CHOOSE what pleases Him, and hold fast to His covenant. They will be given a name that will not be cut off, one better than sons and daughters, and the name will be everlasting.
Same with the non-jew, those that are the Lord's servants. He will bring them to His Holy mountain, and make them joyful in His house of prayer. A house of prayer for all people- available to all people. Both the jew and non-jew
Beasts of the field come, the watchmen are blind- this Is talking about Israel, they won't initially see the Lord coming back. The people watching will be blind, they will have no understanding because they have all turned to their own way. You have to be looking for the Lord to see Him coming. It will take them by surprise, it will take many by surprise- those worried about what they want.
Ch 57
The righteous man perishes. Righteous has Godly thoughts (55:7 unrighteous is to forsake their thoughts)- no one takes this to heart. Devout men are taken away and no one understands. Righteous men (having Godly thoughts - are taken away from evil. They enter peace, and rest in their beds each one who walked (action) in a Godly way. Put together- to perish is to be taken away from evil.
Verse three -lots of talk about second generation, "sons" "offspring" "children"- children not taught, have no respect for God or His gift of life - slaughter children in ravines. Ravines and clefts and crags implies a hiding nature. Even not taught we have the sense of the sins we commit and we try to conceal them - God sees all - how utterly foolish to try.
We sacrifice to our idols, idol worship is sacrifice but not to God. Again a reference to hiding- secret sin- unconfessed, what grabs us, or what we can't seem to let go of. Far from God trying to hide committing adultery- idol worship is putting something before God or in God's rightful place. Adultery is putting someone else in your spouse' place so the comparison is clear. Adultery is cheating on God. Wide bed- much room for others, looked on manhood or nakedness- which is prohibited within families, and also a part of lust. Journeyed to the king with oil (journies usually involve sacrifice -even today), perfume to please king- prince of this world. Doing this instead of serving God.
Envoys- sent others- shared our gossip and disobedience. Tired by the length of our road, but won't admit it. We often our exhausted or "busy" when others ask us to do something, but if its something we want to do- we don't go to bed. Our strength for our desires abounds.
Fearful but not of God, we often don't respect Him because he doesn't act or say anything in response to our sin. So we foolishly lose our fear and respect. God will declare our righteousness and deeds- unrighteous thoughts and deeds are not profitable. When we cry out about our righteousness God will tell us to let our idols deliver us- which they cannot. Interesting that we cry out to God even though we often don't respect Him as we should- its a sign that we acknowledge the existence of God, even when we are not submitted to Him.
Look what happens to those that take refuge in Him - they inherit the land and will posess the mountain. To take refuge we have to give up on our ways and accept His humbly.
God will take up His people Israel- He will remove obstacles from them. He dwells on High but also with the lowly and repentant (contrite). He will not be angry forever or His creation would grow faint- God wants to forgive us. Israel rejected God - turned away from Him, but God, intends to heal Israel and has stated it- what God says happens.
The wicked (v20) are like the tossing sea and cannot be quiet (quiet before God is a sign we have submitted to Him and are listening to Him). The wicked toss up refuse and mud, and have no rest.
Ch 58 These chapters show the true condition of men
Speak out boldly - declaring the transgressions of My people (God's people) - looks like a clear command. Sin is actions, to point out sins is to tell them the ways they don't follow God. Tell this to a people who delight to know His ways, and seek Him daily. We recognize Him, we want Him around, and we follow Him, want Him to be near.
v3- Questions for God- why doesn't He see our fasts, and our humbleness. If we have that question, are we being humble? Do we try and manipulate God to do what we want, expecting Him to honor our fasts and humbleness.
This chapter checks our motives before God. Our motives are usually personal gain, we fast to create contention and strife, to and to hurt people by making ourselves out to be more than we are. The fast is not about drawing close to God but making a statement before men. Fasting should bring about humbleness and a submitted spirit before God.
v6 things to fast for - God's desires- loosen bonds of wickedness -promote His kingdom, seek the freedom of others from bondage, to let the oppressed go free. The point is it isn't for our gain, it is for other's gain we should fast - which is Gain for Him - glory to God.
Do we fast to end hunger?
Do we fast to end homelessness, and provide necessities for those in need?
Hide from our own flesh- turn our backs on needs.
Think about it, meditate on it, pray about it. Search your motives in all things. Seek God's motives, His heart, His desire and then act accordingly.
This nation is in economic crisis- ask yourself- are people worried about their fellow man, or themselves? Do they focus on their loss or what they can do to help. People are more worried about money than they are other people- unemployment becomes a number and not a face.
We need to search motives (personal and corporate). In God's kingdom the motives will be right- catch a vision of a world where people take care of each other. There is fellowship with God, it is not about us, but its about others- in a nutshell.
Check your motives, get them in line with God's then read Isaiah 58:8. Righteousness before us the Lord protecting us from behind. We will call on Him and He will answer- again with right motives. "here I am" - maybe it is an audible response, if our motives our right we may see Him (He is coming again after all).
Remove the yoke- our bondage, our struggle with self. Jesus bought our freedom, don't reject it. It is available now for everyone.
Once the yoke is off - don't point fingers- who is to blame for all the "problems" we see? To a greater extent than we want to acknowledge it is us, and pointing fingers at others doesn't solve problems. They are solved by seeking after God's will then acting accordingly doing our part to do His will.
Speaking wickedness? Its easier than performing an act that helps others (giving ourselves to the hungry), or satisfying the desire of afflicted.
Do this and watch what happens to depression - light will rise in the darkness, and "your" gloom will become like midday. We will be continually guided by Him. To beguided we must be following, to follow we must be looking at, to look at we must seek. In serving others through submission to God- our desires will get satisfied, we'll rebuild ancient ruins - is this talking about cities, or the fall of man- restoring what God originally established, and we lost by wanting our way first. Repairer of the breach.
Sabbath- His pleasure on the sabbath- not yours. focus on His plan and not yours, His wants and not yours, seek His pleasures and not your own. Speak His words and not yours. Then we will take delight in the Lord- have that fellowship we all want with Him. Just because we don't seek our pleasure does not mean we have to be miserable, and there is a temptation there. In doing the Lord's pleasure we will find the joy we seek, the rest we desire.
Finally it is the mouth of the Lord that speaks, if you go all the way back to verse 1 it says cry out. So its not man's message, it is God's.
Ch 56 Sins of Isaiah's day (56-59)
God's desires- preserve Justice and do righteousness. Both thought and action. His salvation is on the way, His righteousness will be revealed (will we know His thought?). How blessed we will be to understand His thoughts.
Don't profane the Sabbath, and keep from doing evil (actions).
The salvation is for all -available to all - not only Israel but all. In addition to race differences, but also those who cannot have children (eunuchs). The message translation applies this to all with defects of any kind. What a wonderful promise - as individuals - who keep the sabbath, and CHOOSE what pleases Him, and hold fast to His covenant. They will be given a name that will not be cut off, one better than sons and daughters, and the name will be everlasting.
Same with the non-jew, those that are the Lord's servants. He will bring them to His Holy mountain, and make them joyful in His house of prayer. A house of prayer for all people- available to all people. Both the jew and non-jew
Beasts of the field come, the watchmen are blind- this Is talking about Israel, they won't initially see the Lord coming back. The people watching will be blind, they will have no understanding because they have all turned to their own way. You have to be looking for the Lord to see Him coming. It will take them by surprise, it will take many by surprise- those worried about what they want.
Ch 57
The righteous man perishes. Righteous has Godly thoughts (55:7 unrighteous is to forsake their thoughts)- no one takes this to heart. Devout men are taken away and no one understands. Righteous men (having Godly thoughts - are taken away from evil. They enter peace, and rest in their beds each one who walked (action) in a Godly way. Put together- to perish is to be taken away from evil.
Verse three -lots of talk about second generation, "sons" "offspring" "children"- children not taught, have no respect for God or His gift of life - slaughter children in ravines. Ravines and clefts and crags implies a hiding nature. Even not taught we have the sense of the sins we commit and we try to conceal them - God sees all - how utterly foolish to try.
We sacrifice to our idols, idol worship is sacrifice but not to God. Again a reference to hiding- secret sin- unconfessed, what grabs us, or what we can't seem to let go of. Far from God trying to hide committing adultery- idol worship is putting something before God or in God's rightful place. Adultery is putting someone else in your spouse' place so the comparison is clear. Adultery is cheating on God. Wide bed- much room for others, looked on manhood or nakedness- which is prohibited within families, and also a part of lust. Journeyed to the king with oil (journies usually involve sacrifice -even today), perfume to please king- prince of this world. Doing this instead of serving God.
Envoys- sent others- shared our gossip and disobedience. Tired by the length of our road, but won't admit it. We often our exhausted or "busy" when others ask us to do something, but if its something we want to do- we don't go to bed. Our strength for our desires abounds.
Fearful but not of God, we often don't respect Him because he doesn't act or say anything in response to our sin. So we foolishly lose our fear and respect. God will declare our righteousness and deeds- unrighteous thoughts and deeds are not profitable. When we cry out about our righteousness God will tell us to let our idols deliver us- which they cannot. Interesting that we cry out to God even though we often don't respect Him as we should- its a sign that we acknowledge the existence of God, even when we are not submitted to Him.
Look what happens to those that take refuge in Him - they inherit the land and will posess the mountain. To take refuge we have to give up on our ways and accept His humbly.
God will take up His people Israel- He will remove obstacles from them. He dwells on High but also with the lowly and repentant (contrite). He will not be angry forever or His creation would grow faint- God wants to forgive us. Israel rejected God - turned away from Him, but God, intends to heal Israel and has stated it- what God says happens.
The wicked (v20) are like the tossing sea and cannot be quiet (quiet before God is a sign we have submitted to Him and are listening to Him). The wicked toss up refuse and mud, and have no rest.
Ch 58 These chapters show the true condition of men
Speak out boldly - declaring the transgressions of My people (God's people) - looks like a clear command. Sin is actions, to point out sins is to tell them the ways they don't follow God. Tell this to a people who delight to know His ways, and seek Him daily. We recognize Him, we want Him around, and we follow Him, want Him to be near.
v3- Questions for God- why doesn't He see our fasts, and our humbleness. If we have that question, are we being humble? Do we try and manipulate God to do what we want, expecting Him to honor our fasts and humbleness.
This chapter checks our motives before God. Our motives are usually personal gain, we fast to create contention and strife, to and to hurt people by making ourselves out to be more than we are. The fast is not about drawing close to God but making a statement before men. Fasting should bring about humbleness and a submitted spirit before God.
v6 things to fast for - God's desires- loosen bonds of wickedness -promote His kingdom, seek the freedom of others from bondage, to let the oppressed go free. The point is it isn't for our gain, it is for other's gain we should fast - which is Gain for Him - glory to God.
Do we fast to end hunger?
Do we fast to end homelessness, and provide necessities for those in need?
Hide from our own flesh- turn our backs on needs.
Think about it, meditate on it, pray about it. Search your motives in all things. Seek God's motives, His heart, His desire and then act accordingly.
This nation is in economic crisis- ask yourself- are people worried about their fellow man, or themselves? Do they focus on their loss or what they can do to help. People are more worried about money than they are other people- unemployment becomes a number and not a face.
We need to search motives (personal and corporate). In God's kingdom the motives will be right- catch a vision of a world where people take care of each other. There is fellowship with God, it is not about us, but its about others- in a nutshell.
Check your motives, get them in line with God's then read Isaiah 58:8. Righteousness before us the Lord protecting us from behind. We will call on Him and He will answer- again with right motives. "here I am" - maybe it is an audible response, if our motives our right we may see Him (He is coming again after all).
Remove the yoke- our bondage, our struggle with self. Jesus bought our freedom, don't reject it. It is available now for everyone.
Once the yoke is off - don't point fingers- who is to blame for all the "problems" we see? To a greater extent than we want to acknowledge it is us, and pointing fingers at others doesn't solve problems. They are solved by seeking after God's will then acting accordingly doing our part to do His will.
Speaking wickedness? Its easier than performing an act that helps others (giving ourselves to the hungry), or satisfying the desire of afflicted.
Do this and watch what happens to depression - light will rise in the darkness, and "your" gloom will become like midday. We will be continually guided by Him. To beguided we must be following, to follow we must be looking at, to look at we must seek. In serving others through submission to God- our desires will get satisfied, we'll rebuild ancient ruins - is this talking about cities, or the fall of man- restoring what God originally established, and we lost by wanting our way first. Repairer of the breach.
Sabbath- His pleasure on the sabbath- not yours. focus on His plan and not yours, His wants and not yours, seek His pleasures and not your own. Speak His words and not yours. Then we will take delight in the Lord- have that fellowship we all want with Him. Just because we don't seek our pleasure does not mean we have to be miserable, and there is a temptation there. In doing the Lord's pleasure we will find the joy we seek, the rest we desire.
Finally it is the mouth of the Lord that speaks, if you go all the way back to verse 1 it says cry out. So its not man's message, it is God's.
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